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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      I guess they've realized this was a dumb policy, because under the current rules what I did was totally fine. Unfortunately, at the time, instead, what I got was a flamewar with @cdibona where he accused me of putting both Google and Pulseaudio in jeopardy. For a 9-line bugfix.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      This proceeded with a bit of back and forth where I mentioned my bad experience with IARC. DiBona was having none of it, so instead he opted to *ban me from the IARC & open sourcing processes*. I was told to "go through employment legal" for any further issues.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      It was at this point that I pulled up my Google employee contract, and looked *very* carefully at the IP ownership clause. As it turns out, I had missed a little detail. It was *obviously* modeled after CA labor code (even though I was in Ireland), but there was a difference.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      CA labor code says, in pseudolegalese: You own THING you do on your own time without company equipment IF NOT ( THING relates to the company's business OR THING results from work you did for the company )

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      Since Google's business is basically everything technology, you do not own anything in practice. E.g. I was told that since Android has an audio server too, that the Pulseaudio patch was in scope and owned by Google.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      However, my contract was worded differently: You own THING you do on your own time without company equipment IF ( NOT THING relates to the company's business OR NOT THING results from work you did for the company )

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      It is evident Google would do better to hire computer science graduates for lawyers, because whoever wrote that clearly didn't understand boolean logic and De Morgan's laws. This is wrong: ¬(𝑃 ∨ 𝑄) ⇎ (¬𝑃) ∨ (¬𝑄) The correct equivalence is: ¬(𝑃 ∨ 𝑄) ⇔ (¬𝑃) ∧ (¬𝑄)

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      And so, *as long as* whatever I did in my spare time and without using Google resources did not result from work I did for Google, it didn't matter one bit whether it "related to Google's business", which is the loophole they use to own everything you do.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      And so I resolved to give zero shits from that point on about their IP ownership policies, and did whatever I wanted in my spare time. If you work for Google (Ireland especially) you should check your employment contract carefully. You might be able to do the same.

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    10. Fried Phish.‏ @friedphishes 18 Dec 2019
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      if you work for Google in Ireland, Irish (read: European) employment/IP/etc laws will be the ones that matter as far as I can understand, no?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      Yes, but regardless of what the law says, since my contract said I owned my work (the fact that it was a copypasta error from CA law is irrelevant), I did, without having to try to claim the clause was invalid under local law.

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