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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. sarah@ganbaranai‏ @winocm 8 Dec 2019
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      Someone needs to rename Wine to "Linux Subsystem for Windows" so Windows Subsystem for Linux can go full circle.

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    2. Mithun Hunsur‏ @Philpax_ 8 Dec 2019
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      Can you run Wine on WSL? I should try this the next time I'm in Windows

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    3. sarah@ganbaranai‏ @winocm 8 Dec 2019
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      Yes.

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    4. Mithun Hunsur‏ @Philpax_ 8 Dec 2019
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      Excellent. Given that WSL is a kernel-mode layer, any further nesting would need to be done through other means, but I assume WSL(Wine(Cygwin(Wine(...)))) might just work

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 Dec 2019
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      Linux and Windows use different segment registers for TLS/process structures (fs and gs IIRC) which is one reason Wine works. I'm not sure if WSL/wine/Cygwin will work depending on the Cygwin implementation, but I'm pretty sure further nesting won't.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 Dec 2019
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      Basically Wine isn't *really* a Windows environment, it's a weird hybrid of Windows and Linux. You can still call Linux APIs like pthreads (and as I learned the hard way when fixing the pulseaudio driver for wine, pthreads explode badly if you try to call back into Windows APIs).

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    7. Mithun Hunsur‏ @Philpax_ 11 Dec 2019
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      Interesting! I'd always assumed that Wine was essentially just a reimplementation of the Windows APIs and a PE loader, but it makes sense that there are specific details that would complicate that in practice. Is there any reading about Wine internals I can look at?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 Dec 2019
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      I don't know personally, I just happen to know about that from having to debug some horrible crashes in the pulse driver way back then. But there's always the source code :-)

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