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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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      Someone claimed that the slider mute switches on Google Home products are software-driven on HN with zero evidence, so I checked. At least on the Home Mini it's hardware. (Also, if you make hard claims on the internet with zero evidence, you're an asshole).

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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      AFAICT the mics are TDM mics in a stereo config (shared data line, idling at average of ~1/2 Vcc, don't have scope with me to check). That's connected to a single AND gate (SN74LV1T00 or equiv), the other input comes from the mute switch.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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      When the mute is engaged, the output of the gate drops to 0V, and that is what goes to the SoC (after a divider, the SoC is probably 1.8V logic while the mics/AND are at 3.3V).

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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      I traced the path from the hardware switch, through a filter/debounce network, to the AND gate, and from the mics to the AND gate. So unless there are backdoor buried traces that bypass this (which would be hard evidence of a backdoor, since they would make *no sense*), it's safe

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    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 20 Oct 2019
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      Does the SoC have other sensors that can be used as mics, though?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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      Like what? The speaker is behind a power amp, it can't backfeed.

      8:26 PM - 20 Oct 2019
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        1. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 20 Oct 2019
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          Accelerometer perhaps?

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Oct 2019
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          It doesn't have an accelerometer, why would it? That makes no sense, the thing is supposed to sit on a table.

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