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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Mar 2019
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      So 25QPS crashed the site? What is it running on, a Raspberry Pi? This isn't rocket science. We handle ~1000 seat reservations per second for @euskalencounter on two servers with Python/Flask/PostgreSQL. How do people make things perform so poorly? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/21/petitions-site-crashes-after-thousands-back-call-to-revoke-article-50?CMP=fb_gu …pic.twitter.com/Px5e8yiY90

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Mar 2019
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      Think about it, we can *encode 4K video* in real time on a modern server easily. That's 30 or 60 multi-megapixel images per second going through complex algorithms. Recording that someone clicked a button is trivial in comparison. How do people get this so wrong?

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Mar 2019
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      And for a petition site you can just dump records in a DB, and cache queries and counts. For reservations we actually need a hard cutoff when seats are exhausted and that introduces a bottleneck hotspot. A petition site is embarrassingly parallelizable.

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    4. ius‏ @the_ius 23 Mar 2019
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      Maybe they accept pull requests? ;)https://github.com/alphagov/e-petitions/blob/master/app/models/petition.rb#L441 …

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Mar 2019
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      It looks to me like they're serializing everything through the petition. I don't know what their infra looks like, but if their Postgres is running on spinning rust with synchronous commits, there's the problem. Never going to get more than 100QPS out of that.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Mar 2019
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      We turn off synchronous commits (and live with the risk that a server crash at *just* the wrong moment could lose a few seconds of data); the only ways around that are to avoid serializing or to use SSDs.

      11:42 AM - 23 Mar 2019
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        2. Srdjan Rosic‏ @srdjanrosic 23 Mar 2019
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          I don't know how postgres does things, but even on spinning rust or super cheap microsd cards e.g. on a pi, hypothetically you could still do batching to sync multiple trx at once and those FUA commands may or may not work to reduce blocking. It's easier to do everything wrong.

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        3. Srdjan Rosic‏ @srdjanrosic 23 Mar 2019
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          I wonder how hard it would be to build a 10k qps petitions website on a rpi. (confirmation via email, maybe another 100qps of counter refreshes.

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