This is how every other standard I listed works, and how USB 2.0 worked. New standards *improve* old standards, but do not *exclude* them.
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Replying to @CrypticBore
3.0 has speeds that are also specified time in 3.1 and 3.2, just like 1.1 had speeds that were also specified in 2.0, and yet devices are not required to implement.
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Replying to @marcan42
My 1.5mbps USB mouse is USB 2.0 compliant. Just like a 1080p TV doesn't need to support 4K to be HDMI 1.4 compliant.
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Replying to @marcan42
Being compatible is different to being compliant. Saying something is able to reach something vs being backwards compatible. Labeling something old as new is not helpful even if that's how its been
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Replying to @CrypticBore
The way USB works is that *hosts* and *hubs* need to support all speeds but *devices* do not. This makes perfect sense because USB versions aren't just about speeds; a mouse can use 2.0 features without needing to run at 480mbps. This has always been this way.
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Replying to @marcan42
I couldn't find a place in the 3.x standard that requires hosts to support all rates for that standard; this could be an oversight, but I also haven't seen any evidence of manufacturers cheating and labeling 3.0 host ports as 3.1. All the brouhaha seems to be about *devices*.
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Replying to @marcan42
And as I said this is *normal*, makes perfect sense, was already the case with 2.0, and is how pretty much every other standard works. You don't need to support the absolute screaming fastest data rate of a standard to call yourself compliant.
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Replying to @marcan42
As I replied to your other tweet thanks for explaining a part of it. However this tweet here is a fallacy. And just because a new technology is made to to be compatible with an old doesn't mean it should be relabeled as the new one and if that's not happening,thatswhatpeoplethink
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Replying to @CrypticBore
But as I said there's no relabeling. A new speed was added, so that means a new version of the standard. The standard isn't some standalone thing, it's literally just an update to the prior standard, so it retains all the existing options.
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Literally all the commotion is over a little note from USB-IF telling implementors that the speeds specified in the various versions are the same (duh) and then telling them that, in marketing, they should use the speed names (not versions!) to avoid confusion.
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Replying to @marcan42
Everyone making noise over this hasn't even bothered to read the actual standards and what they require or don't of devices. It's much ado about nothing.
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