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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Feb 2019
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      Thunderclap TL;DR: someone finally tried on PCs (over Thunderbolt) what we did on the PS4 (over PCIe) years ago. As I said at the time, IOMMUs are useless if the drivers are not written assuming the device is evil. *Nobody* writes PCIe drivers assuming the device is evil.

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    2. Colin Rothwell‏ @colinrothwell 27 Feb 2019
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      This is a fair summary of our work - in our defense, we also did this years ago (first attacks in late 2016), but the academic review cycle can be a pain :) Also, widespread Thunderbolt 3 makes it particularly timely again

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Feb 2019
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      We did ours in January 2015 :-). But yeah, I'm happy this is happening now. As usual, people need to realize just how broken the status quo is.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Feb 2019
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      Also I expect the platform/cost to go down dramatically this year; Lattice ECP5 is pretty much the next big open source FPGA target and there's already a PCIe implementation in the works (that isn't hacked Lattice code like we used in 2015):https://github.com/whitequark/Yumewatari …

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    5. Colin Rothwell‏ @colinrothwell 27 Feb 2019
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      Exciting / terrifying

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Feb 2019
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      BTW, do you have more info on what platforms support ATS? We looked at that at the time and our conclusion was that nothing but big servers (where physical access isn't really a thing) supported it.

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        2. Colin Rothwell‏ @colinrothwell 27 Feb 2019
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          At the time this is what we found - more recently we think we've seen it on e,g. a Dell XPS 15. Think Intel are moving away from market segmentation in that way. Also the case that you can rent a server with an FPGA in it now...

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Feb 2019
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          Good point about servers and FPGAs, ha. I think I read about that recently and figured that couldn't possibly end well if they're trying to virtualize/IOMMU it...

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