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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Jan 2019
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      It's 2019 and PHP is *still* teaching people to concatenate SQL and vaguely-sanitized user input instead of using prepared statements. http://php.net/manual/en/mysqli.examples-basic.php … They got rid of the mysql module... only to teach people to use mysqli the same way. This is why SQLi isn't going away.

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    2. puhuhuhUHUHUHU 🇿🇼‏ @AlexPowerUp 26 Jan 2019
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      I think it's made in case you need to use it for some random reason, but PDO is the way to go in a common scenario. Anyway, the use of a MVC framework is common nowadays and they give you tools to sanitize and filter data. It's still stupid.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Jan 2019
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      But mysqli ***supports prepared statements***, they just aren't using them in the example!

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    4. puhuhuhUHUHUHU 🇿🇼‏ @AlexPowerUp 26 Jan 2019
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      Well the page says "basic examples", and usually the first thing you learn with DB connections with PHP is just to feed queries to it, and then take care of the security. They have examples for prepared statements tho, and they are in the quickstart guide http://php.net/manual/en/mysqli.quickstart.prepared-statements.php …

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Jan 2019
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      No, no, no, no, no. You **never** teach people the wrong way to begin with. Teaching the insecure way of doing things first is a *terrible* idea. If they just want to demonstrate a simple query first then it should be a constant one with no variable interpolation.

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        2. puhuhuhUHUHUHU 🇿🇼‏ @AlexPowerUp 26 Jan 2019
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          I totally agree, but for someone that has been programming PHP for little time it may feel overwhelming to construct a query instead of operating with the DB the same way they do on console/DB client/whatever they use to send queries.

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        3. Sven Slootweg  🏳️‍🌈, but festive‏ @joepie91 27 Jan 2019
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          If you have no prior experience with programming at all, then it's pretty likely that you've never used a command-line client to send an SQL query either; so a "this is the shape of the query, these are the values" model is *more* intuitive than gluing it all together.

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        1. puhuhuhUHUHUHU 🇿🇼‏ @AlexPowerUp 26 Jan 2019
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          The project we are doing in my job is a complete mess, just to give you a taste of it, EVERY MODEL FUNCTION WE MAKE is written in a file called "dbmanager.php". That file is like 65k lines long. With this I mean that I see mandatory teaching good practice from the begining.

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