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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      I'm insisting in software *not* taking dumb steps like silently shoving URIs into xattrs for no reason. This has been a thing for *years* and I only just found out. This is broken. It's not just about userdata passwords. Nobody expects download URIs to tag along files!

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    2. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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      It's not for no reason. It's very useful to know where a file came from and record the URL along with the file download. Safari does it, DEVONthink Pro does it, Evernote does it, etc. Which is exactly why the RFCs say not to put secret info in URLs.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      Please enumerate those useful reasons. Especially reasons to attach the URI *to the file*, not just metadata in a browser database somewhere.

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    4. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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      This reminds me of people who get really angry when they find out about EXIF information. Look, I understand, you didn't know about it — but now you do, so the smart thing is to adjust your behavior accordingly.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      At least EXIF data is inside the file, and applications display it, and it's just metadata, and pretty much every non-evil camera app has toggles for sensitive stuff like location information. Literally *nothing* advertises "hey your file has an xattr with a URI in it".

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    6. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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      On the Mac, "get info" windows in the Finder display the source URLs of downloaded files, along with the program used to create the file, and all sorts of other arguably confidential information.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      This isn't a Mac. I don't know what the standards are like on a Mac. I don't use them and I don't care. I'm talking about this feature *on Linux*.

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    8. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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      KDE file manager shows source download URLs in info windows when curl has recorded them.pic.twitter.com/ybg2Zk78Ht

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      Not here. Which version of Dolphin is that?pic.twitter.com/ntG1371m0g

      Dolphin file properties window showing no Details tab
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    10. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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      Dolphin 18.08 on Fedora 29. Also, searches reveal that source URL metadata is similarly saved by recent versions of youtube-dl, wget and git-annex.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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      18.08.3 here. Maybe that tab disappears when you build without semantic-desktop?

      11:03 AM - 26 Dec 2018
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        2. mathew‏ @mathew 26 Dec 2018
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          I didn't build it, I just installed the standard Fedora KDE packages.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Dec 2018
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          I run Gentoo so I obviously built it. Some of the other features in that tab look like the semantic desktop nonsense, so I assume it's thrown in there and the whole tab disappears when that isn't compiled in.

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