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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Oct 2018
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      Apparently all YouTube comments have a UTF-8 BOM... at the end. YouTube, don't drink and webdev. @FakeUnicodepic.twitter.com/QSnzPdNhti

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    2. @js@chaos.social (Jonathan S.)‏ @Midar3 22 Oct 2018
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      It’s not a BOM - it’s a ZWNBSP. It’s a valid character and only a BOM if it’s at the beginning. As the actual bytes. It certainly is never a BOM if & encoded or encoded in any other form than the bytes defined as BOM.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Oct 2018
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      U+FEFF is deprecated in favor of U+2060 when not a BOM. It is not &-encoded; that's Chrome being useful and making it explicit in the dev tools. The character comes back as a UTF-8 BOM (EF BB BF) in the JSON request for the comments. It's a BOM, in a stupid place.pic.twitter.com/jj0YXmRu4k

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    4. @js@chaos.social (Jonathan S.)‏ @Midar3 22 Oct 2018
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      U+2060 is only the new preferred word joiner, U+FEFF is still ZWNBSP: http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt … It’s only BOM if it’s the UTF-8/16/32 bytes at start. But since the actual bytes are in here rather than & encoded, I now agree it’s most likely a template with a BOM being concatenated.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Oct 2018
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      Of course if it were a BOM used the way BOMs are intended to be used it would have to be at the beginning of the file. There's no reason to have a legacy ZWNBSP here, so the point is it's most likely a BOM that snuck into a stupid place due to bad code.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Oct 2018
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      See also http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom6 … "In the absence of a protocol supporting its use as a BOM and when not at the beginning of a text stream, U+FEFF should normally not occur." Yes, it will be treated as ZWNBSP, but that's for backwards compatibility and most likely a mistake.

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    7. @js@chaos.social (Jonathan S.)‏ @Midar3 22 Oct 2018
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      Yes, with the new information that Chrome just rendered it with & encoding, I agree it’s a BOM that snuck into a template being concatenated. I guess someone needs to reconfigure their editor ;)

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Oct 2018
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      Even if &-encoded, I would just have expected that to be the output of a text transform over what was originally a BOM SNAFU :P

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        1. @js@chaos.social (Jonathan S.)‏ @Midar3 22 Oct 2018
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          Possibly, but doing such replacements in your templates would still be a weird thing to do. At least if you set the encoding to UTF-8 anyway. I remember the days where you used Windows-1252 because IE was stupid and then & encoded everything outside of Windows-1252. *sigh*

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Oct 2018
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          You underestimate the number of layers to the onion of something as big as YouTube. It's easy for some weirdness to sneak in!

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