I'm talking about the LED supply. 20mA at 3V is the max any indicator LED will be powered at (a lot less these days). LEDs are current limited, so you don't get to draw more. That's 60mW. So no, not possible. Not going to draw any significant power off of the Ethernet pins either
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Replying to @marcan42 @danielcincu
*Maybe* if the LEDs are low side switched *and* the current limiting resistor is on the low side and you wire up yourself between anode and the connector shield you could steal more power, but that's a lot of maybes and assumptions about the board design.
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Replying to @marcan42
Also, multiple jack parts have access to more led pins, so more power.
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Replying to @danielcincu
16 LEDs are still not enough to run dual 1000BASE-T PHYs + a CPU capable of using them.
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Replying to @marcan42
Even in short bursts? Let's say you just want to MITM DNS requests. You don't need to run the jack full time. 0.01% of the time is plenty.
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How do you know when there's a DNS request happening without actually running the PHY?
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Replying to @marcan42 @danielcincu
Look, I'm sure at some point you'll come up with a scenario that is Just About Plausible, but this is just dumb engineering-wise.
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I agree. But do intelligence agencies only make smart engineering decisions? I think the killer here is the supply chain traceability. The engineering... who knows? I follow you partly because of all the dumb engineering you report on!
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Replying to @danielcincu
The issue is the dissonance between the engineering required to jam stuff into an Ethernet jack and the dumb idea of depending on LEDs for power. I mean for dumb engineering I already had my ATtiny SOIC8 implant theory ;)
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Replying to @marcan42
But isn't the engineering difficult fundamentally because of the power problem? In a two jack module there is plenty of space.
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It's still very nontrivial. Look at the NSA version for an example, and that was USB which is a simpler protocol. Stuffing this much stuff into an Ethernet jack needs pretty top notch integration skills.
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Replying to @marcan42
There is way more space in a two port ethernet jack than in a USB jack, but I take your point, it's a serious effort. https://goo.gl/images/YoYxjx
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