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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 5 Oct 2018
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      You only know that because the source wasn't anonymous. If the source was anonymous, the reporter would have asked you or me if it was possible, we would have said yes...

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    2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 5 Oct 2018
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      If the source had been multiple IC officials in two administrations AND senior sources inside the affected companies, I would not have ruled it out. What happened with BadBIOS is one random person made an unsubstantiated claim, then nobody and nothing corroborated it.

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    3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 5 Oct 2018
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      Plus the source then released evidence that didn’t make any sense.

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    4. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 5 Oct 2018
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      Yes, but if that hadn't happened, and instead it was quietly discussed behind closed doors, would look exactly like what we have here, no? Qualified, intelligent well-connected people who work in threat intelligence could spin a plausible delusion, no?

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    5. Frank Rieger‏ @frank_rieger 5 Oct 2018
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      Or it is a case of the journalists connecting their dots in the wrong way. E.g.: there were hardware backdoor(s) found on mainboards & discussed at that meeting, maybe technically different than described, and the timing of Apple and Amazon activities was a spurious correlation.

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    6. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 5 Oct 2018
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      This isn’t some quick speculative Ars Technica piece. Getting this wrong after the denials potentially means Bloomberg’s ass on a platter. I think they asked their sources “are you sure about this”.

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    7. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 5 Oct 2018
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      In what way exactly is Bloomberg’s ass on the platter? All their sources are anonymous… at worst they get sued by SuperMicro for making their stock tank, assuming they survive long enough to do so. They settle out of court and continue as always.

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    8. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 5 Oct 2018
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      SuperMicro can claim hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. Lawyers don’t let you gamble with that.

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    9. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 5 Oct 2018
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      And you are certain Bloomberg never ever wrote an article which turned out to be dramatically wrong in other fields and survived to tell the story?

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    10. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 5 Oct 2018
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      I just think that *in this particular case* they confirmed with their sources very carefully before they published these words.pic.twitter.com/ovyhNyFoIA

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Oct 2018
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      This entire saga is dissonant. Bloomberg faking something this big doesn't add up, and all the companies vehemently denying it if true doesn't add up. It's a mess. I have a personal source pushing towards the "fake" side, but it's not definitive.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Oct 2018
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          It's even possible that the answer lies somewhere down the middle. Maybe the implant is real, but the scope much smaller than what Bloomberg claims, and they don't have enough evidence for the larger scope but published it anyway for the clickbait.

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        3. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 5 Oct 2018
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          Perhaps they had the smaller scope, i.e. “some SuperMicros were modified by the PLA just like the NSA modified Ciscos” and added to it the “Apple dumps SuperMicro in 2015” making it “all SuperMicro servers from supplier X are backdoored”. A perfectly reasonable journalistic move

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