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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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    Looking at the GIF in @BW's story about China putting hardware implants into Supermicro servers, it all looks reasonably realistic as a MITM on the BMC's SPI boot flash. I don't know how real the photo is supposed to be, though.pic.twitter.com/eQxp5RsNG6

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      2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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        The thing is the only reason you'd do this instead of just modifying the flash would be to more easily survive updates, or if the flash is programmed too late in the process to hijack.

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      3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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        Also note that the location of the implant is obviously not a normal capacitor/etc, because it's in the middle of an alternate SPI flash footprint. However, that is not a constraint if you're backdooring a system and you know they never populate the alternate footprint.

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      4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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        Hector Martin Retweeted IT Creations

        FWIW, here's a high-res photo of the same board. Nothing suspicious on this one.https://twitter.com/IT_Creations/status/1047939818867445760 …

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        IT Creations @IT_Creations
        Replying to @SMarr311
        We had two of these boards ordered not 20 minutes before your Tweet, and thought perhaps it was you. That would be aside from the fact that, who would go to Twitter to ask or talk about important things like this?? Oh wait… never mind. Here's a close-up of one of the boards. pic.twitter.com/QlOpdfOleK
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      1. modrobert‏ @modrobert 4 Oct 2018
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        Replying to @marcan42 @BW

        Does the Intel and AMD CPU backdoors (SGX, AMD-SP, etc.) count as "implants", or they get away with it because it's on the same die?

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      2. :q!‏ @SMarr311 4 Oct 2018
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        Replying to @marcan42 @BW

        Has an EEE actually done experiments on it? @eevblog or @mikelectricstuf might be interested, if they could get a bunch of boards/chips to prod.pic.twitter.com/dYToR6P3B0

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      3. SEGFAULT (Lauren)‏ @altsegcat 4 Oct 2018
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        Replying to @SMarr311 @marcan42 and

        Or you know... Someone qualified?

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      2. Thomas Daede‏ @enginetankard 4 Oct 2018
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        Replying to @marcan42 @BW

        They could potentially also defeat signing, e.g. if signature verification happens first, and data is reloaded from flash later. That said, at least with OpenBMC I think it trusts the flash 100%.

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      3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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        Hardware attacks are a lost cause. Consumer electronics companies keep trying and failing to produce secure hardware; the only two teams I know of with half a clue are iPhone and Xbox One. If your hardware is compromised at the source you might as well give up.

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      2. Steve‏ @littlesteve 4 Oct 2018
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        Wait, were they placed in line or in place of decoupling caps, because thing I saw said the latter which would be significantly more impressive or required someone to slightly modify the board too

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      3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Oct 2018
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        Replying to @littlesteve @BW

        My understanding is they got the PCB manufacturer to change the gerbers and then delivered the chips to the assembly house (which is probably the same company) to be placed there. So in line/on the side, nothing to do with decoupling caps.

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