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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Kia‏☆‏ @alt_kia 30 Aug 2018
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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 30 Aug 2018
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      "As the PC audio signal is a square wave" What? > final int SAMPLE_RATE = 40000; A 20kHz signal at 40kHz sample rate is a sine wave, not a square wave, because Nyquist. Either this guy is using a horrible sound card with aliasing, or there's harmonic distortion somewhere.

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    3. Monty‏ @xiphmont 31 Aug 2018
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      It is if you go through a complete sample and reconstruction process intended to reproduce a bandlimited input signal. But if you're bitbanging a speaker you get a lot of the squarewave harmonics. The natural rolloff won't be the same as an antialiasing filter.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 31 Aug 2018
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      Yeah, but this is a Java applet running on a PC, so I would *hope* the signal chain is bandlimited and the resampling in use, if any, is mostly free of harmonic distortion.

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        2. Monty‏ @xiphmont 31 Aug 2018
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          Ah ha, a piece I didn't know. I would hope the same, yes. I saw 'PC audio' and read it as 'PC speaker'. If it really is the 8253-ish-driven speaker, it's likely a bitbanging interface. If it's a soundcard and you're getting 40/60kHz out... yikes.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 31 Aug 2018
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          Yeah, I'd expect some funky harmonics out of PC speaker tones. Would be a fun thing to record and see. Legacy ones are definitely driven via a single digital output; I wonder what happens with modern HDA setups though.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 31 Aug 2018
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          To clarify, this is about standard PCM sound card audio, not the i8253 PC Speaker.

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        3. Monty‏ @xiphmont 31 Aug 2018
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          mid-air collision! OK. Yeah, if there's significant > 20kHz output, something is either wrong, or intentionally stupid (eg, NOS output DAC)

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