This actually got me thinking of the DSP implications. I know how sampling and aliasing work in the frequency axis, but clearly phase matters too. Shifting the sampling phase shifts the phase at which the upper spectrum half folds over? I need to think about this.
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Like, obviously when the downsampling aligns with the nonzero samples you get constructive aliasing interference, and when it aligns with the zeros you get destructive interference, but why?
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@xiphmont. Any pointers as to how to explain this time-domain phenomenon in the frequency domain? How does the phase of aliased downsampling affect the phase of the spectral components that get folded together?1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Honestly, never thought about aliasing in detail except how best to avoid it. In the early says of ADC/DAC, the imaging filters purposely allowed some aliasing to get perflectly 'flat' response to nyquist, but that fell out of favor. Possibly due to related question :-)
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There's nothing *that* tricky about it I suppose--- it would be a fun excercise when I'm not busy. Can probably just graph it out and that would be enough.
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I think the answer will be obvious by simply plotting the phase response of a pure time delay. Going to try that now.
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"straight line", and I suppose it just folds at Nyquist like the magnitude.
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Yeah, I can't quite picture it in my head but I think aliasing affects phase (negates it or something like that), so then depending on input phase it can make the resulting signal either completely in-phase or out of phase with the folded alias. Going to try some jupyter-fu.
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Yeah, so the phase of an alias folds around Nyquist *and* gets negated (in the φ=-φ sense, not the 180° shift sense). That's the trick. Notice how 90...180 gets folded into -180...-90. Then when you add both halves together, they cancel out. Remove the 1s delay, and they don't.pic.twitter.com/JpGkBme5Xo
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So maybe it's more correct to say that aliasing folds magnitude around Nyquist but *rotates* phase around the Nyquist,0° point.
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And if I haven't completely forgotten my complex math, negating the phase is equivalent to negating the imaginary component of the complex result at a given frequency. This is interesting, it means there's a discontinuity at Nyquist; aliasing isn't "smooth" I guess.
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