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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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      Hector Martin Retweeted hackaday

      How would you like a failed crowdfunded project? Cute idea and all, but "Tape-out in November" and "The peripherals like UART, PWM, I2C, etc., still need to be integrated." screams "we have no idea what we're doing".https://twitter.com/hackaday/status/1032809991000997889 …

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      How would you like a Z80, 6502, and a 68k on the same chip? https://wp.me/pk3lN-1lJR 
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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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      Seriously, this isn't how this works. This isn't how any of this works. You haven't even started validation. Where's the budget for the second spin, since the first one isn't going to work? $22k for an entire campaign to produce a custom ASIC? What?

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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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          I love the idea of cheap open-source low-volume ASICs but... that's not a thing, and this certainly isn't how you attempt to get there.

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        2.  🌊 Brendan Hoar  🌊‏ @BrendanHoar 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42

          Are there open-source HDLs for many of the components: probably? Is integration easy: almost never.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @BrendanHoar

          Even if magically the entire design would be completed tomorrow, they wouldn't make tape-out for November. Chip validation takes a long time.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @GolerGkA

          I'm not an ASIC guy but I have a rough idea of the order of magnitude, and I don't think you could get anything serious done for less than 10x as much money and with a timeline at least a year out from getting chips. And that'd still be on the rather low end of the scale.

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        2. whitequark‏ @whitequark 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42

          $22k is maybe enough for one mosis run of, what, ten dice? *maybe*.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @whitequark

          And probably not a run of three-core chips with peripherals, RAM, and 72 I/O.

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