Hector Martin on Twitter: "You don't seem to understand the concept of "megabyte". I'm talking about things like POS terminals, which have much, much smaller CPUs than a Raspberry Pi, much less RAM and storage. And Lightning cannot handle the transaction volume of traditional banking, not even close.… https://t.co/f8B7uPPbcQ"

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Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Jun 2018

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What exactly makes you think a single ATM uses 5520W? Here's an ATM datasheet. 260W idle, 410W during a transaction. http://www2.diebold.com/gssasupaes/cut_sheets/cut_sheet_files/Self%20service%20terminals%20-%20ATMs/BulkCash%20terminals/177443r02.pdf …

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spiroseliot‏ @spiroseliot 28 Jun 2018

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maybe i am wrong to this number i had not time to confirm it but even with 410w USA ATM for sure uses the same power as every house in develop world use or all of ATM's of USA use the same power as a small country. And we talk about one single country.

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hikari, Kanbaru enthusiast other Andrea‏ @hikari_no_yume 29 Jun 2018

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ATMs are an interesting case because they are one of the less efficient parts

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hikari, Kanbaru enthusiast other Andrea‏ @hikari_no_yume 29 Jun 2018

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if you consider solely point-of-sale transactions, traditional banking uses much less energy

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hikari, Kanbaru enthusiast other Andrea‏ @hikari_no_yume 29 Jun 2018

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and actually even if traditional banking uses more energy overall, it doesn't help *efficiency*

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hikari, Kanbaru enthusiast other Andrea‏ @hikari_no_yume 29 Jun 2018

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the traditional banking system can process several orders of magnitude more transactions

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Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Jun 2018

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And ATMs do more anyway. That's dealing with physical cash. We already have cash-less centralized banking systems. Comparing Bitcoin to the cash-based economy and not the cashless economy is not a fair comparison.

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Ridley @ a safe distance‏ @11rcombs 29 Jun 2018

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similarly, points of sale worldwide consume massive amounts of power in aggregate, but that'd be true regardless of the payment system used

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Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Jun 2018

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Bitcoin points of sale (real ones participating in the network) would use way more energy than traditional ones anyway. You can't run bitcoind on a tiny embedded platform with megabytes of storage.

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spiroseliot‏ @spiroseliot 29 Jun 2018

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yes you can. There are thousand of raspberry pi 3 bitcoin nodes right now. and many lightning nodes at the same hardware that can handle 10x transactions than the traditional banking system. I dont know any bank to run in a system like this

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Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Jun 2018

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You don't seem to understand the concept of "megabyte". I'm talking about things like POS terminals, which have much, much smaller CPUs than a Raspberry Pi, much less RAM and storage. And Lightning cannot handle the transaction volume of traditional banking, not even close.

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  Typical EFTPOS terminal: 200MHz ARMv5T, 1MB of RAM, 2MB of Flash. Much lower power than a Raspberry Pi. Good luck running Bitcoin on that.https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/teardown-tuesday-credit-card-reader/ …
  
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