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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Jason Mulligan‏ @jasonmulligan 20 Jun 2018
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      yeah, you can, and you can also get rounding errors based entirely on the engine... you can't do that in production, so most don't consider it an option

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      No, you cannot get "rounding errors based on the engine". IEEE 754 is *precisely* defined. The *same* integers are, or aren't, representable in *every single system using IEEE 754". The only problem here is toString rounds some integers to impossible ones for no reason.

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    3. Jason Mulligan‏ @jasonmulligan 20 Jun 2018
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      you think every implementation follows the spec properly? this is web browsers; today doesn't apply to last decade, where the constraints existed

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      IEEE 754 predates web browsers. It came out in 1985. And besides, IEEE 754 is baked into CPUs anyway, so browsers aren't going to randomly mess it up. The only problem here is JS *lies* when converting to a string.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      No other programming language does this. No other programming language takes a floating-point value representing an integer, and, when converting it to a string, says "you know what, I'm going to give you a different integer, without any indication that rounding has occurred".

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    6. Jason Mulligan‏ @jasonmulligan 20 Jun 2018
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      yeah, i know. i've been dealing with the oddness since the beginning... i'm not trying to defend it, just tried to point you at the 'why'. v8 has bigint now, and so does node 10.4.x afaik, so things are getting better (slowly, very slowly)

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      Yes, and hilariously, (4611686018427387904).toString() is "4611686018427388000" (the wrong answer), while BigInt(4611686018427388000).toString() is "4611686018427387904" (the right answer) (or it will be once Chrome catches up with the spec, right now it's an error).

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    8. Jason Mulligan‏ @jasonmulligan 20 Jun 2018
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      try `0x4000000000000000n` ;) ... the 'n' is important atm

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      Yes, my point is that BigInt's conversion (once relaxed; the standard got changed recently to allow converting floating-point integers >2^53) proves that the real underlying integer behind the float value is 4611686018427387904, not 4611686018427388000.

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      You can also get the right answer from toFixed(0) instead of toString():pic.twitter.com/6fNi1jj3rk

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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      Sadly there seems to be no way to get the true decimal integer representation of 1.7976931348623157e+308 without BigInt, because toFixed/toPrecision are limited to 100 digits, so we'll have to wait until Chrome is updated with the new spec. In the meantime, Python can do it.pic.twitter.com/dPcVjcOCCa

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        2. Jason Mulligan‏ @jasonmulligan 20 Jun 2018
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          toString is interesting for numbers http://es5.github.io/#x9.8.1 

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2018
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          Yes, the big fuckup in that algorithm is the "21" threshold and logic in point 6. It should be set up so that as soon as the number is > 2^53, it breaks into point 9 and switches to e-notation, making it clear that we're past the safe integer threshold.

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