Hector Martin

really? I drastically prefer bytearray. In all fairness my experience with JS dev is limited to exploitation of webkit, meaning I'm probably playing with the absolute nastiest of edge cases, but like... I really like python a lot more? It feels cleaner to me in a lot of ways

of course, I'm not exactly a huge python or js dev so my opinion is kinda moot on this, I use js for bad things and python for gross terribly structured scripts and I prefer to write everything in regular C so if anything I'm Objectively Wrong (tm)

Eh, I agree, Python is a much better thought-out language, especially since they (after all these years) managed to pull off a backwards-compat breaking release (Py3) while JS is stuck with all of its warts forever. UTF-16, really? No integer types? sort() sorts in string order?

The one thing JS has going for it is it's huge since it happens to be the language of the web, which means lots of time goes into optimizing the hell out of it, which means these days it's fast (but only thanks to ridiculously complex, massive, incomprehensible JIT engines).

But, like, that happened *despite* JS being a terrible language. It's a consequence of its popularity; JS isn't popular because it's a good language, it's popular because it happened to wind up being *the* language of the web (and people are trying to use it for other things).

I don't do node.js but I've had to deal with node.js codebases and I cannot for the life of me fathom writing any of the stuff I do in Python in JS. Just no. Please. I write JS for web stuff and for that it's tolerable, but I'd prefer Python if I had the choice.