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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Jun 2018
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      Hector Martin Retweeted Robᵉʳᵗ Graham 😷, provocateur

      First good argument I see about why the GitHub acquisition is bad.https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1003396869052141568 …

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      Robᵉʳᵗ Graham 😷, provocateur @ErrataRob
      So here's a more serious discussion of what 'GitHub' is, and why Microsoft's acquisition of it is so important: China can't block GitHub's pages about the Tiananmen Square massacre.
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    2. Andrew Miller (安藤龍)‏ @ikari7789 4 Jun 2018
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      China’s great firewall isn’t MITM the SSL certs? That seems surprising to me.

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    3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 4 Jun 2018
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      That's not how TLS ("SSL") works.

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    4. Andrew Miller (安藤龍)‏ @ikari7789 4 Jun 2018
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      It’s certainly possible to intercept SSL traffic if you’re controlling the middle layer. Many companies do it, some countries as well. I don’t see how China cannot.

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    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 4 Jun 2018
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      No, it's only possible if the client accepts your forged certificate. It's amazing how many people can't conceive of math/cryptography and think lack of MITM is a social convention.

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    6. Andrew Miller (安藤龍)‏ @ikari7789 4 Jun 2018
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      Thus proving my point. It doesn’t need to be a valid certificate on the user’s end. If China were to force this you still wouldn’t be able to access it without accepting their forged certificate or bypassing the firewall with a VPN, etc. I didn’t say it needed to be invisible.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Jun 2018
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      Modern browsers outright won't let you connect on certificate errors (HSTS). It's increasingly hard to "just ignore the warning".

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @marcan42 @ikari7789 @RichFelker

      Also, many command line tools don't even have a flag for that. I don't even know if there's any reasonably easy way of getting 'git clone' to ignore cert errors. Maybe there's a config option?

      2:54 AM - 4 Jun 2018
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 4 Jun 2018
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          Looks like `git -c http.sslVerify=false`. Possible, but non-obvious enough you really don't want to be making *every* developer in your country do it.

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        1. Andrew Miller (安藤龍)‏ @ikari7789 4 Jun 2018
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          Ah, this is true and I’ve encountered it before, but it is possible to use with a fit with a self signed certificate. I understand that it would be a technical feat if China managed to sniff all TLS traffic. I was just saying it is possible In certain cases.

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