The Leninist position is: get your head out of 4chan & grow-up.
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Suggesting a few hundred luddite trolls can lecture Marxist-Leninists (the people who've done more than any other to defeat capitalism-imperialism) on "productivity" is indeed a child-like delusion of grandeur.
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Many that share your orientation have this opinion also. Baudrillard and deluze and guttari both come out of the Marxist tradition. Why does it matter who makes the suggestion? It seems immature to me to disregard potential informative material based on the person offering it.
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No you misunderstand through your own arrogant presumption that Marxist-Leninists are unfamiliar with the dilettantes you invoke as Priestly Authorities.
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If they are familiar, then it's even more of an indictment as woke capital rages on DSA morons in tow. They wouldn't even let you say transsexuals are different than women. They can't even say the revolution needs able bodies.
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No idea who you're invoking, but we have no relations with "they" or any DSA cretins and we assert very loudly that transwomen are not women.
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I understand you are not them. If they were like you, they would be far, far less bamboozled by the bad faith pied Piper of woke capital. It just so happens that they are the popular socialist movement in the West.
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They're not popular at all, you put too much value in bourgeois media/spectacle & the noisy 'middle classes', (who will fall silent when the situation is really revolutionary).
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This may be true, if so it's an illustrative example of the type of cybernetic context creation that is happening now digitally and via other media thats represents novel threat for any revolutionary. There's never been a more effective reality setting mechanism.
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Eg: what on earth makes you think that the 80 million Marxist-Leninists ruling the Communist Party of China, or the millions more of us worldwide, haven't read Baudrillard or any number of accelerationists?
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Im mostly talking about the Marxist Lenninsts that I see in the West mostly in the UK and US. Based on what they say and the abject failure of the ideology to deal with new forms of cybernetic digital media and its surgical use of IDPol as a divisionary control mechanism etc
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New technologies do indeed require new tactics, strategy, etc, and i agree the core ML'ists are lagging in this 'new media' realm. Is that reason to suggest "turning back the clock" & abandoning the proletarian revolution as the answer to our woes? Don't be absurd.
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I'm not suggesting you abandon your project at all Phil, nor that you "turn back the clock" only that these new developments represent an evolution of the enemy. I understand and admire your devotion to your work. We're essentially in agreement as far as this goes.
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Fair enough then, but to be clear I dont have a personal "project" beyond combating imperialist propaganda on twitter and a very limited commitment to a Marxist-Leninist Party in Britain. The revolution will not be led from (bourgeois) 'social media'.
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