We're collectively addicted to these things. It's like we've been playing with cheat codes on. When these concerns begin to impact daily life, watch as all the weird larpy shit of all kinds begins to drop away.
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How funny to win a grand political fight that went on for decades and have it all fall apart because of ocean collapse or sustained petroleum shortages leading to unresolvable system maintenance deficits.
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There's a lot of weltschmerzy pine larping and it's fun and understandable, but it's serious stuff at the root.
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I’m all about taking care of the environment but natural resource concerns are bunk - long history of this. Scarcity of resources isn’t a real problem. I know this sounds shocking but it’s 100% true.
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I'm talking about petroleum specifically. It's not infinite, therefore unless conditions become such that we dont need it, it will be a problem eventually. You're looking at a complete revamp of all existing shipping and power generation.
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“Peak oil” will not happen - mark my words. We already have such advances in fracking, (revolutionary) and natural gas as a super abundant alternative. Solar is becoming much more viable as well. We are so far from having any shortage of fossil fuels.
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It has happened already, and the EROEI on those new techniques has a much faster extraction bell curve and goes negative much faster than conventional Wells. Solar isn't a valid alternative because the enitre production and logistics chain for it is fossil powered.
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You have to beware anything the “environmental lobby” tells you. These people (Sierra Club, Greenpeace CBD, etc.) do very little for the environment. They oppose domestic energy projects in country’s with strong regulations, push development to unregulated countries.
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Fuck all those people #1 that's not where I get my information from and #2 I'd prefer much more radical solution
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We don’t need a radical solution because there isn’t a real problem. Fossil fuels are super abundant with current technology. Alternatives to fossil fuels are on the rise to, but they wouldn’t need to be to ensure the continuation of the current economic system.
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The continuation of the current system is itself a huge problem, even if there was no resource or pollution problem. Industrial technocapital itself IS liberalism, insulation from nature and selection pressure is systemic fragilization, enslavement, modernity.
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The enviro-apocalypse doomsayers have consistently been wrong about absolutely everything. While our movement should be serious about protecting the environment, it shouldn’t adopt this crypto 70s approach.
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I'm just putting out some facts. Oil isn't an infinite resource. I'm sorry but it's not. There are serious problems particularly with the health of the ocean that need to be addressed on pain of very serious consequences for the next few generations.
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Scarcity of resources is basically a myth. Never happens - this sounds shocking because it’s a suppressed veiwpoint. While oil is technically not infinite, it’s incredibly abundant and new technologies make more of it accessible and alternative hydrocarbons like natural gas.
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We didn’t go to war for oil. I think less oil is entering the market in post war Iraq. We went to war for another reason that you’re not supposed to talk about.
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yeah ok what about my cummies
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Wait til they find oil on Mars. V8s will be back
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