uhhh um.... Dogen, Shakespeare, Moldbug and... Rorty maybe I'm not sure
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Replying to @ParadiseDelayed
I would say I'm an anti dogen extremist. But I will say that from what I can tell you're the only sane Soto person I e ever met.
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Replying to @maldngflgh
Would love to hear more about your take on zen actually? rlly tho, most soto practitioners are quite staid individuals in my experience gotta say
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Replying to @ParadiseDelayed
The problem with Soto is the "practice is enlightenment" thing. Yes, the mental states may be approximate but without authentic satori it lacks the a certain dimension of "being in your bones" or self consciousness and is instead a kind of well intentioned performative.
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Replying to @maldngflgh @ParadiseDelayed
In the chan and song era Zen lit you often find rinzai masters like Yunmen entering the meditation hall and saying things like "what a bunch of fools!" Etc. Joshu-Rinzai is the school I'm from, which is itself small and not the same as main line rinzai.
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Replying to @maldngflgh
I read Buddha is the Centre of Gravity a while ago which is by Joshu Sasaki, I have insufficient experience to compare the two sides really, people from both traditions seem to report genuine progress though
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Replying to @ParadiseDelayed
Yeah there's certainly value all around. American Soto has a strain of culty stuff and is largely very sick from the cultural leftovers of the beatniks.
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Replying to @maldngflgh
I keep intending to thread some thoughts on how I reject the way buddhist ideas in the west so often get linked to leftist social/political conclusions but never get round to the necessary groundwork
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Zen is something that is radically apolitical since politics doesn't really escape the contingent sphere y'know.
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Replying to @maldngflgh
Yeah, I think you could approach politics with that awareness and it would imply something like a pragmatic rather than idealistic approach... but I'll probably never get round to working this through
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