Was about to have a rant about how sexual reproduction blatantly benefits collective more than individual and therefore group selection is extremely darned true, but it dawns on me that the the opposition to group selection isn't really saying "that thing doesn't happen",
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It feels as if they're denying that the sky is blue, but really they'd agree with almost all of your measurements and predictions, they are promoting a more precise way of thinking about the radiance of the sky which you wont apprehend until you learn some math or something
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OTOH when a theoretician denies the validity of a folk concept that they could instead, with a little effort, formalise, doesn't that usually turn out to be an asshole move.
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