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    1. Jason Smith‏ @infotranecon Jan 31

      Jason Smith Retweeted Wojtek Kopczuk  🇵🇱 🇺🇦

      This is the weirdest cope for dudes who don’t like being called out for Dunning-Kruger. It *still* shows that the least capable people overestimate their knowledge by more even if they’re just saying they’re better than average because they’re further below average.https://twitter.com/wwwojtekk/status/1487975219251793935 …

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      Wojtek Kopczuk  🇵🇱 🇺🇦 @wwwojtekk
      Replying to @LucioMM1 @robinhanson
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-you-know/202012/dunning-kruger-isnt-real …
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    2. Jason Smith‏ @infotranecon Jan 31

      The effect is still there, just the “explanation” is slightly different. It’s not an actual bias (the less you know the more you think you know) but rather an (unjustifiable) uniform overconfidence of being better than average that yields comical results when you lack knowledge.

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    3. Jason Smith‏ @infotranecon Jan 31

      That is to say Dunning Kruger effect is below average people thinking they’re above average for no reason. Which really isn’t that different.

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 31
      Replying to @infotranecon

      I don’t think this is it? Imagine a model where true scores (0-100) are X, and perceived scores are Y = X + 10 + random error, ie below avg people don’t think they are better than avg and don’t have more of a bias than above avg people. This will generate a DK-like chart.

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    5. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 31
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @infotranecon

      The bias ensures that the intercept is greater than 0 and the random error ensures the slope is less than 1, and that’s all you need to reproduce the chart. You don’t need uniform belief in being better than average, you just need everyone to be the same amount of overconfident.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 31
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @infotranecon

      Notably you get a very similar chart if no one has any bias (everyone is correctly calibrated except for random error) or even if everyone has perfect belief about their own abilities but the test is noisy.

      8:21 AM - 31 Jan 2022
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