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    1. Kris‏ @KrisAbdelmessih Jan 28

      Corey and his team's work has been like that to me coming from options land. Anyway, this is just a collection of thoughts aloud that will make its way into something I'm working on. Happy Friday, go Niners (as a NY Giants fan feels weird to write that but I got SF kids)

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    2. Robert Martin‏ @robertmartin88 Jan 28
      Replying to @KrisAbdelmessih

      I can't wait for this post Kris! Think the link between mean-reversion / trend following and convexity is v fascinating – "mechanical convexity" as corey says. Though at the same time I'm interested in the limits of the idea, and a bit sus of the idea that TF gives ...

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    3. Robert Martin‏ @robertmartin88 Jan 28
      Replying to @robertmartin88 @KrisAbdelmessih

      convexity in practice. I've seen the paper "proving" that they are the same, but the empirical evidence doesn't seem that convincing to me? As you mention in a separate comment, the inability to replicate jumps seems pretty impactful

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    4. Kris‏ @KrisAbdelmessih Jan 28
      Replying to @robertmartin88

      The discontinuity thing is a big deal. Hard options vs soft options is a big deal. Think of a tail option and wonder...what is the probability of going ITM and how many of the paths that cause it include market gaps.

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    5. Robert Martin‏ @robertmartin88 Jan 28
      Replying to @KrisAbdelmessih

      Another thing is that the derivation of the trend-convexity equivalence seems to rely on quite a particular TF scheme. I don't know too much about TF in real life – maybe that's how they do it – but it just seemed a bit contrived.

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    6. Euan Sinclair‏ @SinclairEuan Jan 28
      Replying to @robertmartin88 @KrisAbdelmessih

      i always read that paper as "hey this is a nice conceptual linkage on a certain level" rather than as a true equivalence.

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    7. Robert Martin‏ @robertmartin88 Jan 28
      Replying to @SinclairEuan @KrisAbdelmessih

      Good point! I guess at the end of the day it’s basically an empirical question as to how much convexity TF provides

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    8. Euan Sinclair‏ @SinclairEuan Jan 28
      Replying to @robertmartin88 @KrisAbdelmessih

      also, just because something has convexity, doesn't mean it has the same type as a vanilla. like people want to equate the changing leverage of an option position with the kelly criterion even though the leverage doesn't change in the same way

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    9. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 28
      Replying to @SinclairEuan @robertmartin88 @KrisAbdelmessih

      You can trade futures to replicate a straddle — this looks like TF and provides the delta component of option pnl over a horizon “dt” which is the time between trades. You don’t get theta, gamma, vega etc. But over multiple trades you get a gamma-like profile (minus jumps),

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    10. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 28
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @SinclairEuan and

      specifically you get convexity over a period T only if T >> dt. This is actually good because it’s what allows TF to be +ev even though option buying is generally -ev.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod Jan 28
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @SinclairEuan and

      Real world TF strats don’t exactly have an option relocation profile but they are similar, they generally have max/min position (representing delta going to +/-1) main difference is that TF positions are normally sized 1/vol whereas options have constant notional.

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        1. Kevin Morris‏ @CareerLow Jan 30
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          Still have much to LEARN tho.

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        1. Morrisville Lanes‏ @MorrisvilleL Jan 31
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @SinclairEuan and

          Those that don’t scale for vol often look better in portfolio context IME. Sort of akin to delivering an equity put vs vol targeters that look like put spread. Also at portfolio level TF can act like option rep with gamma as more and more positions get to max. Agree not exact

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