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    1. Alex Good‏ @goodalexander 29 Dec 2021

      Tesla is a good example of why alternative data hasn’t helped the hedge fund industry as much as hoped - even if you knew sales or earnings in advance, it’d have been hard or impossible to make $. We live in cash flow from financing world, not cash flow from operations world

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 29 Dec 2021
      Replying to @goodalexander

      Hmm is that true? Have never tested, but I feel like a portfolio which is long biggest future earnings beats, short misses, adjusted for size/sector, would do extremely well even over the last 2-5 years.

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        2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          My response to “why hasn’t alternative data helped the hedge fund industry” is two-fold. First, much of the data is bad (eg low breadth, short history, poor data quality, not updated in a timely manner etc) or useless (already baked into earnings estimates or reflected in price)

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          Second, it’s not true that alternative data hasn’t helped. Some of it has been and still is very predictive, you just need to know where to look (and have tested a lot of data sets out of sample).

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        2. Saang Lee (이상선)‏ @saanglee 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          Not sure if how much alpha it has anymore since so many eyes are on TSLA these days... But Musk used to love bringing forward earnings calls by a few weeks every time they had a large beat.

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        3. Kevin Morris‏ @CareerLow Jan 2
          Replying to @saanglee @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          trying to do the arb?

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        1. Jessica Nutt‏ @JessicaNutt96 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          AQR does something sort of like this to show why value has sucked. Knowing future earnings expectations obviously would gives you a great sharpe ratio but has deteriorated in the last few years meaning knowing future fundamentals have mattered less. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3554267 …pic.twitter.com/vBWnnA0zUa

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        1. We Live to CFO‏ @WeLivetoServe 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          Think it should be “Tesla is a good reminder that alternative data, like other data, can not be applied to individual names and should be used in portfolio manner instead.”

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        1. PeckedByDucks‏ @PeckedXDucks 29 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          Tesla such an outlier on several fronts that it's not a good example - Alex says alt data, I say alt KPIs. You're talking about an earnings revision factor. Generally great to know future earnings, but sector-neutral, would be like pod HF book, with associated crowding risk.

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        1. macroarb‏ @macroarb 31 Dec 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander

          Some shops abandoned that exact strat last yr, esp w credit card. It’s a 1ish sharpe strat. Gotten worse lately. Part of the issues is biases in the data, but also because participants start crowding into names as panels are released - and get caught wrong footed together

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