Here’s a bunch of questions about basis and funding rates that I’d love to have the answers to. 1. Common sense says that futures premiums should be roughly the same as expected funding rates over the lifetime of the future, but historically they have been much lower (so that
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short perp/long futures has generally been profitable — why?) 2. Funding rates and premiums can be persistently quite different across different exchanges. What are the main drivers of this? 3. How does options hedger demand affect funding rates and futures premiums? (eg
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funding rates for ETH at deribit spiked recently compared to other exchanges — is that because of option hedger activity?)
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4. What ultimately constrains funding rates/premiums on the downside? Is it purely demand coming back, or do some players attempt the reverse funding arb?
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @ALBACapMgmt
Another thing not clear (to me.) In the case where there are no limits to arbitrage, do we think the futures should trade at a premium or discount? Do we think the market price in a benefit or cost to holding crypto spot?
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just extrapolating from what I've seen on the tradfi insti side – instis would rather have a CME futures position than hold spot BTC with a custodian because there is a tonne of funkiness in the weeds of legal contracts with custodians. So I guess futures should be at a premium
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Replying to @robertmartin88 @therobotjames and
Not sure I have an explanation about this on the CME, but if we're looking at expiratory futures on an offshore exchange (let's take BitMEX), the spread between spot and futures theoretically represents the market funding rate for USDT + risk premium for counterparty default.
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Replying to @DMTCapital @robertmartin88 and
Moving to perpetuals,
@IDrawCharts recently did a good thread on perp funding rates. I think the theory, at least for vanilla perps, is it's determined by punting degenerates. Looking at quantos though, the theory is high rates are compensation to the shorts for covariance risk.1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
Replying to @DMTCapital @robertmartin88 and
Oh yeah, for quantos it’s definitely all covariance risk. I think that market is going away eventually though, BitMEX are launching USDT margined contracts now.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @DMTCapital and
Would we not therefore expect quanto yields to be almost always higher than equivalent USDT margined yields? Which (based on eyeballing some of the funding rates) doesn't seem to be true
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Yeah you should expect that! I haven’t looked at the data but I’m tempted to shrug and say “eh, illiquid market”.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @DMTCapital and
@DMTCapital kindly corrected me in DMs – I was getting confused between quantos and inverse futures. Carry on as you were!0 replies 0 retweets 2 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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