What method tends to be the easiest to back out ivols from American, dividend-producing options? I've been using broker ivols for a while now, but I'd like to get my hands dirty building an SSVI surface directly from option prices.
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Step 1 was going to be using a good risk-free rate for the option lifetime. The general consensus seems to be an IBOR, so FRED has that and I can match the option tenor to the nearest rate possible there. It's kind of gone now, so I was going to use T yields too/ interpolate.
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Step 2 - the hardest part seems to be the dividend yields. You can of course for like 95% of cases take the discrete dividends and make a continuous implied yield, but you need a dividend forecast. In practice is it fine to use the historical trailing dividend yield (12mo)?
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I guess this is a question mostly directed at folks like
@TheSpeculator0@bennpeifert@darjohn25 Another idea would be to use comparables (e.g. dividend changes over the company peer group) or pay for a fancy dividend forecasting service, but at that point I just give up and use1 reply 0 retweets 1 likeShow this thread -
broker ivols anyway.
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I know you can hack using the forward -prices to skip the interest rate and dividend yield nonsense since that's baked into the price of the forward itself, but there isn't (at least any exchange-traded) forwards on single stocks, just the indices.
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Replying to @nope_its_lily
always compute forwards first from put/call parity bounds
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Replying to @bennpeifert @nope_its_lily
(don't mess with dividend forecasting etc, like, the market tells you the answer, and if you're different from the market, you're almost certainly wrong)
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I encountered that method and it makes sense to me, but now essentially you have two unknowns - the shape of the vol smile for a given tenor and the implied dividend yield over the lifetime of the option (although it might be even more complex than that given the early exercise)
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You don’t need to know the implied dividend yield if you’re pricing using the forward (at least, this is true for European options — not sure about American)
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But if you do need to know it, you know the spot price, implied forward, and interest rate, so you can solve for it trivially.
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