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    1. baufinanciaphaster  👹‏ @bauhiniacapital 26 Sep 2021

      This article can be boiled down to a couple of points… 1) Individuals punt with options b/c leverage is more exciting than buying stock. 2) when they buy call options, they are Individuals Embrace Options Trading, Turbocharging Stock Markets - WSJhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/individuals-embrace-options-trading-turbocharging-stock-markets-11632661201 …

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    2. baufinanciaphaster  👹‏ @bauhiniacapital 26 Sep 2021

      they are buying stock, heavily levered, which means their money buys more exposure and market impact than it otherwise would have. 3) unspoken: options dealers aren’t haemorrhaging losses, so punters are net losing money, paying extraordinarily high rates on that leverage.

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    3. baufinanciaphaster  👹‏ @bauhiniacapital 26 Sep 2021

      4) unspoken: there is no indication markets are any higher than they’d be if those punters had just bought less stock and kept it. If most options expire worthless and options dealers are profitable, then most of the premium used goes to ‘waste’ (into dealers’ pockets) which

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    4. baufinanciaphaster  👹‏ @bauhiniacapital 26 Sep 2021

      means there is less delta exposure held by such investor-punters than there would be had they just bought stock. 5) Punters gonna punt. 6) Dealers gonna deal.

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    5. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 26 Sep 2021
      Replying to @bauhiniacapital

      the question is really : 'is there a long term impact to flows?' and Bouchaud would argue yes.

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    6. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 26 Sep 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily @bauhiniacapital

      one cannot forget that order flow is a Hawkes excitatory process. the delta hedging flows of options, no matter how they get structured, influence other momentum traders to follow, which distorts market information which does net net permanently impact price

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    7. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 26 Sep 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily @bauhiniacapital

      this is something I've talked about (and folks like @NotQuiteMidlife) - with the advent of fractionalization and options non-recourse leverage, it's less sensible for a less sophisticated market participant to think in terms of fundamentals and more in terms of value-at-risk

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    9. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 26 Sep 2021
      Replying to @ander_hk @bauhiniacapital @NotQuiteMidlife

      Ha. We can call it 'regret'. In general, I purchase a stock especially to speculate by measuring my potential reward against my maximum risk, not against the fundamentals underlying it.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 26 Sep 2021
      Replying to @ander_hk @nope_its_lily and

      For me the interesting thing about options isn’t leverage, it’s the mechanical buying as the price goes up and selling as it goes down. Sure a bunch of the premium goes directly to dealers but there are a lot of flows before that happens, and maybe those flows are important?

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        2. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 26 Sep 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @bauhiniacapital @NotQuiteMidlife

          Nah. Couldn't be. /s

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 26 Sep 2021
          Replying to @nope_its_lily @bauhiniacapital @NotQuiteMidlife

          Getting dangerously close to agreeing with you on something so I’m gonna push back hard on the Hawkes process thing, that’s just what people use to *model* flow (and it doesn’t model it that well)

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        1. baufinanciaphaster  👹‏ @bauhiniacapital 26 Sep 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @nope_its_lily @NotQuiteMidlife

          Basically you like the crowding. I do too. If you can surf the waves of market-crowd behavior, that is great. Some can, some cannot. Some will, some will not. Some wipe out.

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