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    1. Robin Wigglesworth‏Verified account @RobinWigg 2 Aug 2021

      Index funds have saved US investors $357bn in management fees over the past 25 years. And thats just the cost side of things. Index funds have also vastly outperformed the average active funds over that period. https://www.indexologyblog.com/2021/07/27/strength-of-savings/ …pic.twitter.com/ag9NpkbZRV

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    2. Dr. Julia Coronado‏ @jc_econ 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @RobinWigg

      This is because index funds free ride on the research of active investors. If no one was tracking the decisions and performance of individual companies and deciding who to buy and sell, how exactly would prices be set and how would markets impose discipline?

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    3. Robin Wigglesworth‏Verified account @RobinWigg 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @jc_econ

      Bit of a straw man argument IMO. Even in the US where it the most advanced, passive is still just 17% of free float, after five decades. Active will always be around.

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    4. Dr. Julia Coronado‏ @jc_econ 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @RobinWigg

      How does that in any way negate what I said? You are comparing the performance of funds that do no research and essentially crowd source across active funds but whose existence would not be possible without them? Not exactly apples to apples IMO

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    5. Rich Gluck‏ @TheMrktCyclist 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @jc_econ @RobinWigg

      How much should active managers be paid for their inability to beat indexes? Surely, they are overcompensated because they don’t outperform. Optimally, there should be enough active mgmt to earn its fees and no more. Thus, we are still oversupplied with active.

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    6. Robin Wigglesworth‏Verified account @RobinWigg 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @TheMrktCyclist @jc_econ

      Precisely. While I agree that it is a societal good that there are active investors, there are more portfolio managers than ever, across more funds than ever, earning greater salaries than ever, actually doing worse than ever, as the market becomes more efficient.

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    7. Robin Wigglesworth‏Verified account @RobinWigg 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @RobinWigg @TheMrktCyclist @jc_econ

      It’s harsh - especially coming from someone in an industry under even more pressure, glass houses etc - but I struggle to see a shortage of active managers as an actual real problem in markets today, or for the foreseeable future.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 2 Aug 2021
      Replying to @RobinWigg @TheMrktCyclist @jc_econ

      Passive would be fine even if there were no actively managed funds, because active *investors* would still exist.

      2:07 PM - 2 Aug 2021
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