It seems to me that there's a deep relationship between the sticky strike vs sticky delta assumptions (in vol surface modelling) and Bayesian updating. A smile implies a probability distribution. So when spot moves, does your pdf stay the same (sticky strike) ...
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or re-centre (sticky delta)? In reality it will be somewhere in between. The new spot price is a datapoint with which you can update your "prior" probability distribution. So the degree of delta-stickiness is related to how important you think the new spot price is.
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Replying to @robertmartin88
the whole sticky strike / sticky delta convention always seems unnecessary and convoluted to me. You have a skew which is implying a certain relationship (ATM vols lower on spot up) and an actual realized measure of the same thing (covar or beta or whatever).
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Can you explain how skew implies a relationship to spot? Im getting confused between spot and strike
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Expand out pnl in terms of Greeks to include theta, gamma, vega, vanna and volga terms (assume delta is hedged). Take expectations and assume risk neutral so that E(pnl) = 0. Spot-vol covariance and vol-of-vol will be parameters. With some manipulation you can express implied …
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… vol at each strike as a function of spot-vol covar (skewness) and vol-of-vol (convexity) depending on vanna/volga exposure at each strike.
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This Peter Carr paper has some good details — https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=887104096000094090107030026116070007059014046014006078009096019067075112006014090110126001100120033059005011077005074018001112016049064053067093018118113071001068088028055096108004065029105096024077124066116008093029119020107071097122088068006123022&EXT=pdf&INDEX=TRUE …
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
yeah i would strongly advise using the constrained model in this paper over a larger one, as a larger one will fit the data better but will sometimes assign loopy economic values to the vanna / volga pricing
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I implemented it to do risk on options a while back. I found (a) important to weight liquid strikes more heavily to avoid crazy fits (b) can get a good fit with just three params (atm vol, skew, convexity) except for short dated, where more terms were needed to fit the wings.
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