Good question that doesn't actually have a simple answer! Perps are easiest. You are long spot (say BTC) and short futs. For inverse you receive funding payments in BTC so to maintain zero delta you either need to sell small amounts of BTC or sell more futures.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
If you are selling spot then your exposure stays the same and you should use simple annualization. If you sell futures your exposure grows and you should use CAGR.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
For linear futures you receive your funding payments in USD so by default your exposure stays the same (simple annualization) but if you used the USD to increase your position size you should use CAGR.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
For dated futures you can only guarantee positive P&L if you hold to expiry, so your compounding opportunities are limited to once/month or once/quarter. So either simple annualization, or (1+x)^12 (monthly) or (1+x)^4 (qtrly) depending on whether you compound or not.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
To err on the side of caution I would just use simple annualization everywhere since it applies to every type of contract, requires the least action on the part of the trader, and is more easily understood.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
The system I set up to track premiums uses simple annualization everywhere for this reason. Compounding 8 hour interest to annual is useful primarily for generating eye-popping numbers when you need to impress someone.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
Thank you for breaking it down into simple terms. As we're on the topic of collecting funding from perps, would you consider the theoretical risk-free rate for cryptoassets to be the flat funding (0.01%) collected every 8 hours or 10.95% via simple annualisation?
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Replying to @shnkrtwts @robertmartin88
Not sure I understand the question! If you are talking about being long spot, short perpetual futures, there is nothing risk free about it.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
My bad, should have been clearer. Its a long spot, short perp position at 1x leverage. Assuming funding doesnt turn negative, wld the funding payout rcvd at 0.01% every 8 hours amount to an equivalent risk-free rate as there is no exposure to BTCUSD price fluctuations? Thank you!
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Replying to @shnkrtwts @robertmartin88
If funding stays at 0.01% then you receive this amount every 8 hours with very little price exposure to BTC, but “risk free” is the wrong word because there are ton of risks being taken here.
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eg counterparty risk to the exchange (if it gets hacked), risk of your futures position being liquidated, risk that the exchange shuts down withdrawals and your cash is trapped, risk that trading in crypto or derivatives is either regulated or banned etc
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @robertmartin88
Ahh right, understood. Appreciate the replies, thanks again!
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