We’re going to hear a lot about equity total return swaps over the next couple of days but let me take a second to point out how extremely normal they are and how unsurprising it should be to find out that Archegos was using them.
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Here are some actual good takes on TRS from people who actually understand them (unlike me)https://twitter.com/saanglee/status/1376522517259513857?s=20 …
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Guillermo writes like he assumes everyone is as smart as he is so this one may be a bit wonky, but trust me it's goodhttps://twitter.com/NewRiverInvest/status/1376438692965883904?s=20 …
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Great thread, thanks for putting it together.
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"well, yes, we lost 100% of our money but at least we don't have tax-line discrepancies that could leave us with mismatched gains and losses leading to a bonus tax liability"
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Not sure but I expect there is an element of prisoner’s dilemma at play — “I like to think we have some pretty smart people here but it sure is a hell of a lot easier just being first.”
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Worked on swaps desk out of school through financial crisis. Much more leverage used then obviously. There was drips and drabs of using them for disclosure, but mostly for tax purposes when not explicitly for leverage.
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What is the point of reporting anything if you are saying effectively big boy cfds don't get reported? I keep asking folks about derivs and how we know finra and sec number mean anything. Never got a sense that they do anything but lower bound.
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