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    1. Veronica Humble‏ @veronica_humble 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @veronica_humble @macrocephalopod

      And downtime costs

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    2. keyser soze‏ @KeyserSozeBro1 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @veronica_humble @macrocephalopod

      Great point. I’d also argue that most institutional hedge fund LPs are compulsive to gather non-correlated strategies managers (quants) until the jackpot hits. Then they leave. To some extent, all top quant managers experience this after their outlier year of huge + returns.

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    3. keyser soze‏ @KeyserSozeBro1 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @KeyserSozeBro1 @veronica_humble @macrocephalopod

      Strategies work until they don’t, until it gets arbed out, until the strategy gets flooded with capital, etc. But the best quant managers will find the next big opps - always. Never ever redeem from a top quant fund. You’ll never get back in again & you’ll regret it.

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    4. Veronica Humble‏ @veronica_humble 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @KeyserSozeBro1 @macrocephalopod

      Unless of course top quant funds have issues of their own. And I'm not sure about "always" :) but yes, gathering uncorrelated strategies makes sense, as well as assuming a short longevity for the working ones

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    5. keyser soze‏ @KeyserSozeBro1 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @veronica_humble @macrocephalopod

      1 trick ponies are self evident. They present that way, they present as narrow specialists & there’s no mystery for the LPs that they’re done when the strategy sunsets, e.g. merger arb in late 90s, convert arb in early 2000s. I consider elite vol generalists to be evergreen.

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    6. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @KeyserSozeBro1 @veronica_humble

      I agree with this except I would say “big multi strats” instead of “big quant funds”. If you are doing equity l/s, fixed income rv, vol arb, convert arb etc as well as quant you have a much more diversified revenue stream and better opportunities to pivot when one stops working.

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    7. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @KeyserSozeBro1 @veronica_humble

      Where are people drawing the line on what is and isn't a "quant fund" these days?

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    8. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @therobotjames @KeyserSozeBro1 @veronica_humble

      🤷‍♀️

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    9. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @therobotjames and

      I often hear Citadel referred to as a quant fund which is not strictly accurate (lots of discretionary traders) but not completely inaccurate (lots of quant all over the place, eg to hedge factors in their long/short book or in the central risk book).

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    10. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @therobotjames and

      Funds like Brevan and Rokos have big quant teams even though the main strategy is clearly not quant (got to build those curves and price those derivatives) and I hear they are looking more at systematic nowadays.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @therobotjames and

      Millennium is even further from quant than Citadel but again moving in that direction, they recently hired Ross Garon from Point72 (where he ran their internal quant fund Cubist)

      12:25 PM - 21 Mar 2021
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        2. QuantPM‏ @PmQuant 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @therobotjames and

          Interesting, I thought millenium had a fair degree of systematic macro. Also former Rentec russian PMs guys there.

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @PmQuant @therobotjames and

          Yeah I don’t mean that they have no quant (they have billions managed by WQ for a start!) just that all the quant is stuffed into specific trading teams, unlike Citadel where it seems like it touches ~everything.

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