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    1. Adam Goldstein‏ @goldstein_aa 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @zzzrrrzzz12 @breakingthemark

      Well, look at your tweet thread: "Here's a quick primer on how to build a quant reversion strategy. First step is to find a price series that...may have some reverting behaviour -- this ... looks reasonable but you could use an ETF, currency, whatever really."...

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    2. Adam Goldstein‏ @goldstein_aa 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @goldstein_aa @macrocephalopod and

      Your tweet clearly implied that in order to make money there has to be some predictable behavior like mean reversion (or trend, presumably). But that's not true - a stock that wanders aimlessly with NOISE with a geomean multiplier of 1, so it goes nowhere - could make you rich.

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    3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12 @breakingthemark

      I agree with that!* I have never disagreed with it! I didn't bring up shannon's demon -- I only pointed out that it doesn't work on price series that have zero arithmetic return (which is true of the price series I was using).

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @goldstein_aa and

      The * is there because this only works in theory (in reality transaction and financing costs would eat all your pnl) and only for certain definitions of "very rich" -- in practice you would need to compound for dozens of years to become rich, even if you had no txn costs.

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    5. Adam Goldstein‏ @goldstein_aa 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @zzzrrrzzz12 @breakingthemark

      Well, you're clearly making some assumptions on the (1+R) noise multiplier with geomean=1. If it's highly volatile noise, you could get rich as as fast as Rentech did with Medallion. And it's just random noise!

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    6. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12 @breakingthemark

      Yes I'm assuming it's similar to real-world stocks. If you took Bitcoin with 100% annualized vol you would only have a Sharpe of 0.5 so you need to compound for 16 years to be 95% sure of profit. For a stock with 50% vol you need to compound for 64 years to be 95% sure.

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    7. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @goldstein_aa and

      Shannon's original example used 50% vol for each period -- if we assume that a period is one day, the asset in his example would be 8x more volatile than Bitcoin (!)

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    8. Matt Hollerbach‏ @breakingthemark 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

      More volatility is easy to find. It just requires leverage.

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    9. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @breakingthemark @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

      I see, so you will increase leverage to get the desired volatility, and then decrease leverage to get the desired returns?

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    10. Matt Hollerbach‏ @breakingthemark 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

      why would you decrease leverage to get the desired returns?

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
      Replying to @breakingthemark @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

      The whole point of “volatility pumping” is that an asset with zero geometric return can be made to have positive geometric return if you reduce the leverage. My claim is that you can’t find assets with high enough volatility for that to be interesting in practice.

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        1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @breakingthemark and

          If all you are saying is “you can lever up low vol assets to increase the return” then yes, I agree — this is why risk parity works. Again, a completely in controversial and boring fact that is extremely well known!

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        2. Matt Hollerbach‏ @breakingthemark 16 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

          That is a very simplistic view of what vol pumping is. Vol pumping isn't abut an asset with zero geo return, its just the most eye catching type. There are plenty of articles on vol pumping where cash isn't involved, and the "pumping" is just between a bunch of risky assets.

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 16 Mar 2021
          Replying to @breakingthemark @goldstein_aa @zzzrrrzzz12

          This is exactly the same as saying that by diversifying you can reduce the volatility drag of a portfolio of assets, right? ie “diversification is the only free lunch in investing”.

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