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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      Most trades that "worked" have some combination of risk premium/structural alpha, and genuine alpha. That is, you were getting paid to either take a risk or perform a service, but also you got paid more than you "should" have because others had not noticed how good the trade was

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    2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      Equity stat arb (i.e. cross-sectional price reversion) is an example of this. This provides the service of supplying liquidity to impatient traders and it therefore has positive expected return. But for many years the positive expected return was *way* higher than necessary

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    3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      to induce traders to provide the service, because not many had noticed you could do it (or had the necessary infra). So it had genuine alpha in addition to structural alpha. Now it only has structural alpha and is less well rewarded as a result.

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      I'd argue most forms of quant value and trend following have a similar property. Value is a risk premium and trend following (on average) provides the service of taking on price risk from hedgers, but they both also had had genuine alpha in the past which is largely

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    5. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      absent today. For these strategies in particular past performance is not a guide to future returns.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021

      (Also if you are looking at a backtest of these strategies rather than a live track record there is a ton of "data mining alpha" but that's a separate topic)

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        2. Avery 🌸 💝 📈 📊 💹 🇺🇦 🙏🏽 ✊🏽 🌹‏ @averygrrl 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod

          Way too much data-mining alpha, tempted to say even Eugene Fama worried about this one.

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @averygrrl

          Agree. You need to look at the track record of actual value investors (and tease out the value premium from their other exposures) or look at post-publication performance of trading strategies to avoid it.

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        2. Agustin Lebron‏ @AgustinLebron3 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod

          It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't done this a lot how Every. Single. Time. in-sample $/alpha are bigger than OOS. To the point where you yell "Dammit, I did everything right! I was a good little boy, super careful with data, etc!" And it's *still* overfit.

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        3. Agustin Lebron‏ @AgustinLebron3 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @AgustinLebron3 @macrocephalopod

          Then you see someone pitch you their new quant fund with some backtest/papertrade results and you just laugh (internally). You feel like a jerk, because they really do believe their #s. And *they're* trying to be good too! Doing things right, honest, etc. It's just *that* hard.

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        2. ZT‏ @quantonisland 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod

          Providing liquidity can be a solid revenue stream, if executed well. Equity stat arb should work as long as market inefficiency exists — various investment horizons, risk constraint from mandates, geographical differences, etc

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        3. Rigmarole‏ @funInComputer 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @quantonisland @macrocephalopod

          Equity stat arb is good with alpha in there

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        1. Saang Lee (이상선)‏ @saanglee 12 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod

          Overfitting ftw

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