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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 11 Mar 2021

      Short story about how screwed up asset mgmt industry can be. Many years ago we had a fund that was down ~20%, the PM was fired and a new PM with new strategies took over the fund.

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    2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 11 Mar 2021

      Allocator at a big pension fund with $100m invested literally begged us to start a new vehicle running the same strategies because they wanted to stay invested but couldn't justify to their boss being in a fund that was 20% underwater

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    3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 11 Mar 2021

      If we agreed it would have crystalized their losses and they would start again with a new high water mark. Obviously we didn't do it. Can't remember whether they redeemed or not, but the fund was back above high water mark within 15 months.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 11 Mar 2021

      Our perf fee was 20%. This allocator was willing to give up ~$4m (20% of 20% of $100m) of their investors' money rather than have a difficult conversation with their boss.

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        1. Alex Good‏ @goodalexander 11 Mar 2021
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          British?

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        1. josh‏ @22jkm_ 11 Mar 2021
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          it's wild how easily incentives can get out of whack in money management

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        1. 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗖𝗼𝘄𝗯𝗼𝘆‏ @ConvexityCowboy 11 Mar 2021
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          Which country was the pension in? Public or corporate? People give up HWMs all the time but not to give the money to the same manager in a new vehicle...craziness.

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        1. Simcoe‏ @Simcoe__ 11 Mar 2021
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          So true. I would hope investment committees would follow the performance of funds post their redemption to better understand if they left money on the table. It simply doesn’t happen and a lot of value is destroyed.

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        1. renny  🇺🇦‏ @rennyzucker 11 Mar 2021
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          Lol I read this and thought “and?” And then realized we’re all probably pretty jaded.

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        1. Mauricio‏ @Maurici71313776 11 Mar 2021
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          Wow

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        1. RabbiJacob‏ @RabbiJacob16 12 Mar 2021
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          How do you even get a perf fee of 20% for being -20% 😅 please teach me 😂😂

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        1. Noviscient‏ @trelsco 12 Mar 2021
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          Performance, alignment, transparency, agency issues all in one story. Captures the essence, as you say.

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