Every derivative introduces a new parameter required to price it in a model, and the derivative becomes a way to trade that parameter. In the case of options the parameter is implied volatility. For futures/forwards the parameter is the basis (~dividends minus financing)
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @FREAK0NAUT and
Prob silly Q, but why cant you use cash to buy SPY? Why would you need financing from broker? Very insightful. Broker spread drives cost of carry. Anything that offsets the benefit of futures? Since they have certain risk SPY itself lacks right?
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @macrocephalopod and
Imagine a scenario where you are a Mm and you have $100 million and your portfolio margining is only $100 million but your long SpY position was $1billion and your short futures position (or combo) was short notional $1 Billion, you still need ‘Cash’ to fund the spy
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Replying to @jam_croissant @macrocephalopod and
I see, so basically it's better to avoid using cash when possible, since it may be needed as collateral / margin for other positions (like futures, which can be a more efficient way to express a trade), assuming Im following
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @macrocephalopod and
Collateral is different than financing.
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Replying to @jam_croissant @macrocephalopod and
Ah true, Im a little tripped up here. So I think scenario is: You have 100mil in cash, &100mil in borrowed $ (margin) You are long 1bil of SPY, which costs 1bil You are short 1bil notional of SPYfut, which costs the futures margin From here Im a bit lost.
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @jam_croissant and
It sounds like total funds to use are 200mil. The cost of the futures position is Z. So we only have (200mil - Z) left to cover the stock position, but thats not enough cuz it costs 1bil. Is that why we need broker financing?
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @jam_croissant and
Essentially yeah. Stocks (including ETFs) are cash instruments, when you buy them *someone* needs to hand over cash in exchange. If you do it on margin, that just means your broker is handing over the cash and charging you for it (effectively they are lending you the cash).
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @jam_croissant and
Brilliant thank you! Last Q - if you were to run a study comparing the "easiness" of money access, to returns in various things, what yield or rate spreads would you use? FedFunds - 1month treasury? 3mthLibor-overnightLibor?
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @jam_croissant and
All of these can be useful depending on the context. It used to be common to look at the TED spread (3M LIBOR minus 3M treasury bill) which is a spread between a rate which includes a credit component and a rate which doesn't.
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Post-2008 there is a renewed focus on collateral and financing so people tend to focus on the 3M FRA minus 3M OIS rate, which is a spread between a term rate and an overnight rate, or 3m FRA minus 3m term repo, which is uncollateralised minus collateralised.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @jam_croissant and
Ah makes sense. Thank you for everything you share, I think I have a good start now
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