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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 8 Mar 2021

      Of course it's still possible that dealer selling exacerbates the drop, but that's much less obvious, and requires careful data analysis -- you certainly can't conclude anything by looking at the chart.

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    2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 8 Mar 2021

      Main point here was that despite all the complicated options flow, dealer hedging, second order greeks fluff, this essentially comes down to stocks up => positive signal, stocks down => negative signal — like so many other indicators that just reflect recent market moves.

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    3. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 8 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod

      This is also roughly what happens when we see negative GEX after large moves. I mentioned it when we saw the -2 billion reading or whatever. It's pretty normal simply because of price sensitivity.

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily

      This is pretty much my point. Not that all the dealer hedging stuff doesn’t work at all. Just that it’s often presented in a way which massively overstates how significant it is (eg chart above, or plots of dealer gamma exposure vs return). These charts show a big effect but

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    5. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @nope_its_lily

      98%+ of the effect you see in those charts is straightforward contemporaneous mechanical relationships in the underlier => options direction. Measuring the strength of the predictive options => underlier relationship (what you actually care about) is hardly ever discussed.

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    6. skajbaje‏ @skajbaje 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @nope_its_lily

      I would split the problem in 2 parts - 1.estimating dealer(delta hedged) positioning and 2. predicting performance of options given the positioning. 2. is pretty pretty good grounding, ad can even be modelled (Loepr). 1. is super hard

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    7. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @skajbaje @macrocephalopod

      1. is a fool's errand. Statistics works a lot better here in my biased opinion.

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    8. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily @skajbaje

      What makes you say that? I haven’t implemented the method in the recent-ish @HauVolatility report but it seems a priori plausible, and the only good test of whether the effect everyone says exists really does exist.

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    9. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @skajbaje @HauVolatility

      Confess need to re-read Hau's work, but when I pinged, my understanding is it mostly looks to understand whether OI is bought/sold, no? Not the actual dealer net Greek exposure.

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    10. Lily.wav‏ @nope_its_lily 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily @macrocephalopod and

      This won't give you a true idea at all of how dealers are actually hedging, which seems to be the more salient point here.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 9 Mar 2021
      Replying to @nope_its_lily @skajbaje @HauVolatility

      Yes, the model is essentially that spread-crossing buyers and sellers don’t hedge deltas whereas spread-receiving buyers/sellers do. Which is clearly not completely accurate but is a big improvement over literally any other method!

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        2. skajbaje‏ @skajbaje 9 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @nope_its_lily @HauVolatility

          I think we all agree it is. The question, coming back to your first point, is if it’s good enough to build a trading strategy off of it.

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 9 Mar 2021
          Replying to @skajbaje @nope_its_lily @HauVolatility

          🤷‍♀️

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