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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

      macrocephalopod Retweeted Paul

      This is a weirdly common misreading of Mandelbrot. His main contribution was noting three properties of markets that are not well captured by Brownian motion models — 1. fat tails 2. heteroskedasticity 3. long-range correlations (eg power law decay in acf of absolute returns)https://twitter.com/desgrippes/status/1368389916812533768 …

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      Paul @desgrippes
      Replying to @CorsairRig @jam_croissant @macrocephalopod
      Read 'The Misbehavior of Markets' by Benoit Mandelbrot. He showed (mathematically) the movements are anything but 100% random.
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    2. CorsairRig‏ @CorsairRig 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod

      @macrocephalopod If we’re all aware that markets are indeed random, why do any of us waste time trying to predict it? This has been bugging me for some time now.

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    3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @CorsairRig

      Well, what do you mean by random? There are several obvious non-random effects like “stocks go up on average” or “you make money on average by lending to corporates or sovereigns”.

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

      “Random” is just an extremely unhelpful word when applied to markets because it can mean anything from true randomness (eg beta decay) to the randomness of a roulette table, where outcomes are uncertain but you are guaranteed to lose given enough time.

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    5. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

      “Efficient” is a more helpful word which loosely means “you can’t reliably make money except by doing the obvious things which everyone agrees will make money” (eg buying stocks or bonds, or supplying liquidity)

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    6. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

      So the question is “are markets efficient?” and the answer is “obviously not” as the existence of firms like Renaissance, Millennium or DE Shaw can testify to (you can think of them as a thirty year experiment in testing the efficient markets hypothesis)

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

      But markets are pretty close to efficient (maybe 99% of the way there) and inefficiencies disappear over time, so the average retail trader should treat markets as though they are efficient, and just buy stocks/bonds (in fact so should the 98th percentile retail trader!)

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        2. FarmerMichael‏ @stackingtoshis 7 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

          That sounds like the average retail investor, not trader. Or perhaps youre saying the average retail trader should not be one?

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        3. Noviscient‏ @trelsco 7 Mar 2021
          Replying to @stackingtoshis @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

          The average retail trader should not trade. The average retail investor should build a broadly diversified portfolio entered over time and hold. There are some nuances at the professional level, but this sums up the normative perspective in investing.

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        2. SemiCynic (  🐻,  ✈️ )‏ @SemiCynic 7 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

          IMO it’s easier to screen for inefficiency than for normalcy. The small % of great / awful companies with mismatched metrics will tend to jump out and they’re oh so tempting to take a risk on.

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        3. Noviscient‏ @trelsco 7 Mar 2021
          Replying to @SemiCynic @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

          How do you reliably screen for inefficiency?

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        1. Noviscient‏ @trelsco 7 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @CorsairRig

          I like the overall picture, but Ho w do you define ‘inefficient’ in a way that isn’t just descriptive?

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