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    macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

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    This is a weirdly common misreading of Mandelbrot. His main contribution was noting three properties of markets that are not well captured by Brownian motion models — 1. fat tails 2. heteroskedasticity 3. long-range correlations (eg power law decay in acf of absolute returns)https://twitter.com/desgrippes/status/1368389916812533768 …

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    Paul @desgrippes
    Replying to @CorsairRig @jam_croissant @macrocephalopod
    Read 'The Misbehavior of Markets' by Benoit Mandelbrot. He showed (mathematically) the movements are anything but 100% random.
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      2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        All of those are completely consistent with markets being random! It just means that simple random models (like gbm) do not sufficiently capture observed market behaviour.

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      3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        Mandelbrot proposed a fractal model of markets based on taking a cartoon stock price chart and randomly replicating it on smaller and smaller scales (like how you can build any other fractal, but with random instead of deterministic replications).

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      4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        This market model has fat tails, heteroskedasticity and long-range dependence, but it is still largely random! Mandelbrot did *not* show that markets are not random. He offered an alternative kind of randomness that matched observed data better than gbm.

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      5. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        The fractal model of markets never caught on because it was too hard to make it practical for the kind of thing that practitioners cared about — i.e. the pricing and hedging of large derivatives books. We developed more practical models that solved the problem in a different way,

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      6. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        largely local volatility and later stochastic volatility models which explicitly build in time-varying volatility and hence generate fat tails and heteroskedasticity. Like all models they are wrong, but unlike the fractal model, they are useful.

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      7. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        That’s all I have to say about it really. Mandelbrot was not wrong, in fact he was ahead of his time — but his research led in an unproductive direction. The fetishisation of his ideas that has cropped up in the last 10-15 years is weird and I attribute it mostly to people who

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      8. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        have read “fooled by randomness” or “the black swan” once and largely failed to understand them 🤷‍♀️

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      9. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021

        I feel like @EmanuelDerman would have a much better take on this than I do!

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      2. Scarfless Dog‏ @scarflessdog 7 Mar 2021
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        Due to the fact the market is a reflection of human behavior, it's not possible for it to be "random". There can be so many times going on that it gives the impression of a random system, but it isn't true randomness. Human beings do not act randomly.

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      3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 7 Mar 2021
        Replying to @scarflessdog

        Gas particles do not move randomly either but the entire edifice of statistical mechanics has yet to come crashing to the ground.

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