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    1. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      So to trade this stuff effectively we need: - to understand why the inefficiency would persist - faster converging metrics around what we're exploiting so we're not "the last to know" when the inefficiency disappears - patience and discipline to "keep swinging the bat"

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    2. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      Useful sources for this kind of stuff include: - Expected Returns, Antti Ilmanen - Efficiently Inefficient - Pedersen - Positional Option Trading @SinclairEuan (which literally gives you stuff to trade) - Active Portfolio Management - Grinhold, Kahn

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    3. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      Generally, this stuff is less reliable than 1) risk premia harvesting and 3) fast-converging flow effects. "Home gamer" traders usually spend too much time here, and too little time on risk premia harvesting. Active managers of size play here tho they'd rather be playing 3)

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    4. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      3rd category: Trading fast-converging supply-demand imbalances This stuff is the bread-and-butter of proprietary trading firms. Short term supply/demand imbalances create dislocations in prices which fast traders can "disperse" by trading against and offsetting risk elsewhere.

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    5. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      These trades are conceptually simple and economically sound. For example, I might buy sell futures on Shanghai INE and buy a similar contract cheaper on Singapore SGX for a profit (after costs). That's a simple "arb" though it carries risks cos we can't trade instantaneously

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    6. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      More normally though, we're doing riskier trades that we expect to work out on average. We're serially looking to buy cheap and sell high based usually on simple relative-value models. The assumption is made that deviations from (relative) fair value will converge...

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    7. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      So models are less about "predicting the future" (as per 2) and more about "extrapolating the present" (Q vs P). "But you're *predicting* convergence to your model of fair value you're using to quantify cheap/expensive?" Yeah, exactly.

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    8. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      Advantages of these trades are: - they're easy to understand and economically simple - they converge fast to expected pnl. You know quickly when your model is out or you don't have edge anymore. They fit nicely with @KrisAbdelmessih's "measurement and normalization" paradigm

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    9. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      Disadvantages are that they are capital constrained (you can only eat what you are fed) and require significant investment in infrastructure and staff. Whilst this area isn't practical for "home gamers", the lessons here are crucial for a good understanding of the market.

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    10. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 9 Feb 2021

      Takeaways for "home gamers" - Do more of 1) and less of 2) - Dig into 3) to understand and appreciate "the terrifying efficiency of the markets"

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021
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      The big problem with 2) is that they are often presented as equivalent to 1) in terms of how confident we should be in them (by eg AQR, DFA, Robeco) but in fact we should be waaaaay less certain give questionable historical data, overfitting etc. So more 1) less 2) 👍

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        2. ren ~(˘▾˘~) ~(˘▾˘)~‏ @0xren_cf 23 Apr 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @therobotjames

          Everyone doing 2 properly is actually just doing 3 but the distortions in 3 are too big for prop trading firms to fully remove

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        3. Robot James  🤖 🏖‏ @therobotjames 23 Apr 2021
          Replying to @0xren_cf @rencryptofish @macrocephalopod

          Robot James  🤖 🏖 Retweeted Robot James  🤖 🏖

          Yeah I reckon so too. Most of 2 I think is just sitting in roughly the right place with your mouth open waiting for 3 to leak.https://twitter.com/therobotjames/status/1384640028328988673?s=21 …

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          Robot James  🤖 🏖 @therobotjames
          Here's a "work in progress" model of how 3 and 2 interact - and how you can do 2) by "sitting roughly in the right place with your mouth open" https://twitter.com/therobotjames/status/1384631469499314184?s=20 …
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