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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021

      Some of those might be a partial answer? Most of them are either irrelevant, too small to matter, would act in the wrong direction, or flat out contradict each other. No attempt made to explain the mechanism or size of the effect, just screaming stupid buzzwords into the void.

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    2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021

      The first question I’d ask is “are we actually seeing a surprising number of intraday reversals?” — it definitely feels like we are but I’d want to see some stats on that to see if there’s actually anything to explain or whether this could just be seeing patterns in noise.

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    3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021

      Then I’d throw out the explanations that can’t possibly work eg negative gamma exposure, CTAs, risk parity, target vol funds... these would all act in the wrong direction (they are momentum-reinforcing) so can’t be a useful part of the explanation.

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021

      Then throw out the nonsense explanations (front running, “the algos” without any eleboration, “passive flows” without an explanation of why they would be counter-trend) or the irrelevant ones (eg charm flows given we are not near an opex)

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    5. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod

      The vast majority of passive flow enters markets via auction and basic twap algo (futures executed over the day for exposure & switched to stock in auction) twap ‘leak’ huge amounts of information into the market that is very easily exploited by HFT’s.

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    6. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash @macrocephalopod

      Global or multi country ETFs ‘leak’ even more info due to the predictable nature of order flows across mkts and instruments. Make no mistake there are very complex algo/machines crunching this data to work out the probability of another order... usually a buy entering the mkt.

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    7. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash @macrocephalopod

      They effectively buy in front of and sell to the real money account for a few points only. If one real money account needs to buy and there are 5x HFTs the impact of one real account can be magnified exponentially.

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    8. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash @macrocephalopod

      As more real money and active managed accounts have caught onto this system the less they use normal mkts in favor of dark pools, auctions etc creating less liquidity and even more price distortion.

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    9. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash @macrocephalopod

      A lot of these successful HFT strategies started in the FX space exploring currency crosses but have since adapted to indices and etfs. There are a few and they make insane amounts of money at very little mkt risk, dev costs are however massive

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    10. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash @macrocephalopod

      So I agree that they are certainly not to blame for a move. They do however add jet fuel to a predictable move.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021
      Replying to @WatchTowerCrash

      I mean I mostly agree but it doesn’t negate my main point which is that trying to explain away every intraday market move with mechanical factors cannot be done, at best you can explain a few % of the variance.

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        2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @WatchTowerCrash

          The points I disagree with — that you could have five HFTs all front-running the same passive order in full size and all selling to it, obviously that can’t happen (you can’t sell more than they want to buy) so there is a limit to how much the move can be magnified,

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        3. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @WatchTowerCrash

          and in any case this would just add a small amount of temporary market impact (maybe a bp or so) to the passive order, it would not be responsible for big (tens or hundreds of bps) market moves or persist for long periods of time.

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        1. Watchtower‏ @WatchTowerCrash 6 Mar 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod

          100% it’s human nature to create a narrative to explain the chaos. In the end it’s all random at best, we create stories in order to feel some sense of control.

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