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    1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 18 Feb 2021

      they are... if not technically lies, definitely a way to hook you so that they can pass you off into a less well paid role that they can collect a quick commission on

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    2. emily‏ @theemilyaccount 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod

      the general rule of thumb i follow is that if they won't send you the whitepaper from the firm as soon as you ask (which should be the first thing you ask), then its not legit

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    3. Will Dearden‏ @_wdearden 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @theemilyaccount @macrocephalopod

      what does whitepaper mean here?

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    5. emily‏ @theemilyaccount 18 Feb 2021

      generally when firms are working with a recruiter theyll send out a whitepaper with the job description/qualifications necessary, etc. that's what i mean by that

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    6. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @theemilyaccount

      I always called this a spec, but yes you should definitely ask for this and they should definitely be able to send it (caveat - maybe not if it’s for a very senior role, but that’s a different kind of conversation)

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    7. emily‏ @theemilyaccount 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod

      yeah sorry, whitepaper is the parlance the crootrs have used with me in the past. just dont let the recruiters do the bait and switchy deal where they tell you you're interviewing at emily capital, but actually you end up slumming it at citsec

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    8. ValueHao‏ @ValueHao 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @theemilyaccount @macrocephalopod

      one time I got baited and switched where the salary wasn't as ensconced in the 'range' they gave me but I was lying big time about my current salary so it worked out

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    9. emily‏ @theemilyaccount 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @ValueHao @macrocephalopod

      i lowballed myself so badly when i signed on that the year after i got nearly a 100% raise because i brought up the point that i could make more instantly by going literally anywhere else

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    10. ValueHao‏ @ValueHao 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @theemilyaccount @macrocephalopod

      actually was it direct hire? Because if you were working with a recruiter they did a terrible job.

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 18 Feb 2021
      Replying to @ValueHao @theemilyaccount

      kind of ... a recruiter’s objective isn’t to maximise the fee they get from your placement, they want to maximise P(placement) x E(fee|placement) which could be done by reducing the latter term and increasing the former

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        2. ValueHao‏ @ValueHao 18 Feb 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @theemilyaccount

          I'm not as privy to it but part of why I lied as to my salary was because I'd imagine if you're hiring someone and you find out they're making *significantly* less than your offer, it'd make you wonder if they're as good as they say.

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        3. ValueHao‏ @ValueHao 18 Feb 2021
          Replying to @ValueHao @macrocephalopod @theemilyaccount

          but I agree, if you're given a range, obvi they'll want to get you placed and will absolutely sacrifice the latter for the former, but I don't think it's so linear; perhaps more polynomial

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        2. emily‏ @theemilyaccount 18 Feb 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @ValueHao

          direct hire. i was v naive coming out of school, i just thought finance was neat

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        3.  🌹‏ @n55939491957681 21 Feb 2021
          Replying to @theemilyaccount @macrocephalopod @ValueHao

          only handshake is good for right out of school if u go to at least a semi-target ime (linkedin and recruiters are useless tho did get one interview for a role at a decent name firm, one of those that test math at a super high level and then all u actually do is build dashboards)

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