I don’t think anyone claims that the dynamic is the primary cause of moves in the underlying, rather than the hedging either suppresses or exacerbates moves that happen for some other reason.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @QuantVol
Possibly you are asking about something else since you used the phrase “vanna decay” which I am not familiar with?
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @QuantVol
People refer to this stuff as “gamma hedging” or “vanna hedging” which is very unhelpful, since no gamma or vanna exposure is being hedged. It’s just sensitivities of delta to moves in spot or implied volatility.
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Ok, thanks, not exactly my question but to your point: can you walk me through a "verbal" impulse response functions and tell me some identifying assumption to belive the vanna hedging *causes* prices to go down. Suppose we start from an equilibrium. What is the causality story?
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It would be something like “implied vol goes up” (because someone buys options or whatever, doesn’t matter) which means dealer delta increases (assuming they are long vanna) which means they need to hedge by selling spot, and selling spot causes the price to go down.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @QuantVol
I gave him the manual
pic.twitter.com/YHqABoZjJA
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Replying to @FREAK0NAUT @QuantVol
Ehhhhh it's a good document but has some dubious bits -- e.g. the chart showing that volatility is high when gamma exposure is low. Presented as if low gamma exposure is *causing* realized vol to be low but in fact it's the other way around, high realized vol causes high implied
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vol, and high implied vol mechanically causes low gamma exposure (since ATM option gammas decrease as implied vol increases). Seeing bits that I understand presented incorrectly makes me wary about the bits that I don't understand.
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Overall I like it, I learned something from it (thanks
@SqueezeMetrics) but I've seen some people revere it as the holy grail, which is a bit... eh.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Fair, I missed that sentence! It makes the chart of GEX vs SPX returns a bit moot though, right? GEX is a noisy measure of (inverse) realized vol, so you would expect returns have large magnitude on days when GEX is low.
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Establishing the GEX-SPX relationship, and GEX's role in liquidity provision, is a prerequisite for building a "surface" of conditional gamma/vanna, which is the part that's actually giving us really cool insight here.pic.twitter.com/lFg2EO96eJ
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do you actually have to model the gamma or can you just look at the open interest and expiration cycle?
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