Just think about what happens when 1 unit of UVXY is bought and you go through an AP share creation cycle. The original purchase of UVXY nets out because the AP sells a share, so no impact there. You are left with a purchase of 1.5x VIX futures, that is what causes px to go up.
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Replying to @macrocephalopod
The APs don’t have to necessarily keep a matched book so that VX future being bought isn’t a guarantee... ya know. On top of that the APs are going against the prevailing price (if demand is high they are coming to force this down).... + share creation dilutes the reflexivity
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Replying to @Ksidiii @macrocephalopod
This process isn’t really a cascading gamma effect the way how a supply & demand driven asset that needs to be hedged by MMs generally operate, ya know. That IV price is really the goal of the AP, which isn’t bound to the strongholds or keeping a pure “matched book”
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Replying to @Ksidiii @macrocephalopod
learning a lot here, anything you suggest reading to learn more about authorized participants for these types of products?
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Replying to @M1tchRosenthal @macrocephalopod
Uhhhh i don’t know anything off the top of my head besides Vance’s work...(which I’m a fan of) He talks about this process a bit here https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/3012686-how-does-uvxy-work …
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I asked Cem his opinion if a Gamma Squeeze was possible FWIW- "Given the right order type and size at the right time...absolutely. It’s happened before. That said, UVXY is not the most effective place to attack, margin/convexity tails in SPX and VIX drive max leverage."
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@Ksidiii can you explain what you mean by a “matched book”? You mean a book where each UVXY share held long or short by APs is offset with the matching amount of VIX futures?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @macrocephalopod @mistman78 and
If you don't mind explaining, I thought the XIV blowup of 2018 was because weight of retail buying (at its peak XIV and SVXY were 4b in AUM) had caused the beta of the VIX to morph relative to the SPX. Hence a 4% drop in S&P caused a 20x spike. Why wouldn't the reverse be true?
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Replying to @enymarra @mistman78 and
The XIV blowup was self-reinforcing. Vol had been compressed by huge interest in vol selling (high AUM in inverse VIX ETNs) so a small absolute increase in VIX represented a large % in crease, which meant a large loss for XIV. It was then compounded because XIV was looking at
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So it’s a combination of massive AUM and a leverage factor that means for every 1% increase in VIX futs they had to buy back 2% of their position. With UVXY the AUM is smaller plus the 1.5 leverage factor means they only buy 0.75% of their position for a 1% increase in VIX futs
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @enymarra and
On top of that as
@ksidiii explained, the vol drag acted to compound the AUM in short VIX products like XIV until things got to the pint they could snap, whereas it actually reduces the AUM of UVXY on average, so harder for UVXY to get to AUM levels where it makes a difference.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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