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    1. mpp75214‏ @mpp75214 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @FREAK0NAUT and

      ea futures way more liquid when stock market open than not

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    2. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mpp75214 @FREAK0NAUT and

      Even when the market is open, all the price discovery happens in futures. SPY is a sideshow. Don’t get me started on the constituents.

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    3. mpp75214‏ @mpp75214 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @FREAK0NAUT and

      when market is open there is no difference between spy and futures... you can’t be saying that all the price discovery happens overnight!

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    4. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mpp75214 @FREAK0NAUT and

      I’m saying the the futures lead the etf intraday (at HFT timescales) because they are the more liquid market.

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    5. Freak0naut‏ @FREAK0NAUT 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @mpp75214 and

      i had heard spy was more liquid that futures. (obviously.. i know nothing.)

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    6. mpp75214‏ @mpp75214 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @FREAK0NAUT @macrocephalopod and

      fairly sure that spy during market hours is more liquid than futures in the middle of the night

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    7. Freak0naut‏ @FREAK0NAUT 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mpp75214 @macrocephalopod and

      why are not comparing during the day to middle of the night we're comparing middle of the night to nothing. /ES certainly more liquid than spy when SPY is not trading at all.

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    8. mpp75214‏ @mpp75214 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @FREAK0NAUT @macrocephalopod and

      well by this analogy why not just hedge aapl option positions with jpy overnight... the point is that in situations when overnight prices aren’t reliable indicators of actual pricing in normal market hours then may not be optimal to base trading decisions on such

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    9. mpp75214‏ @mpp75214 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mpp75214 @FREAK0NAUT and

      I mean if you face risk constraints and *have* to hedge sure. but if not then why (if you think futs untethered from actual spy price)? it’s like if you face risk constraints then sure close your gme short at 500, but if not then probably better remain unhedged

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    10. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mpp75214 @FREAK0NAUT and

      I have no idea where you got this bizarre idea that futures are untethered from SPY prices from? It's not like the stock market opens and suddenly the futures are like "oh shit, out of line, better trade up to where the stocks are". It is literally the exact same people trading

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      macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Feb 2021
      Replying to @macrocephalopod @mpp75214 and

      the futures, the constituents, and the ETFs. The (suitably adjusted) futures price is an incredibly good indicator of where the index will open and it is absolutely used to hedge SPY options overnight.

      5:22 PM - 6 Feb 2021
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        1. macrocephalopod‏ @macrocephalopod 6 Feb 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @mpp75214 and

          Knowing where futures are trading is a much better indicator of where the constituent stocks (and the ETFs) are going to move to than vice-versa. As I said, all the price discovery happens in the futures.

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        1. Freak0naut‏ @FREAK0NAUT 6 Feb 2021
          Replying to @macrocephalopod @mpp75214 and

          So back to the main point then. @nope_its_lily @yup_its_lily 's point that EOD NOPE being indicative of dealer hedging imbalance can't possibly be the driver since the hedge using /ES. It must be measuring something else that is indicative. P.S. How is prop fund coming?

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