So the point I’d make to refute : @Post_Market may weigh in or disagree
1) long/short pod models were running near peak leverage and max long going into this
2) as shorts run up they need to take leverage down which reduces whatever prior position was (so sell Longs)
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Replying to @goodalexander @nope_its_lily and
There’s a tenuous but plausible story here. Obviously degrossing *per se* cannot cause a market crash since the same amount of stocks will be bought and sold. But it has knock on effects which *could* contribute to a market crash. Specifically, when a fund
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander and
degrosses it causes losses for other funds with similar positions as the longs are pushed down and the shorts up (and equity long/short funds and multi-manager pod shops tend to have quite large position overlap). This means two things -
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Replying to @macrocephalopod @goodalexander and
1. The volatility of the “hedge fund positioning” factor goes up, so their positions get more risky and 2. Their NAV decreases because of the losses. Both of those lead to more degrossing which perpetuates the cycle, and the second one in particular leads to de *netting*
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across multiple large aum funds simultaneously, and it is the simultaneous de-netting (ie selling more longs than shorts) that contributes to a market crash.
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The degrossing cycle can happen to any grp of funds that has large position overlap (eg definitely happens to quant equity mkt neutral and rates RV) but the unique thing about equity l/s is that they normally run a net long position, so only they can contribute to a mkt crash
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