This thread is interesting but in a bad way. The answer imo is “whatever Quantian will pay, plus the advantage in financing costs my superior balance sheet affords me times the leverage I can squeeze in.” 6-7K easily. https://twitter.com/Jesse_Livermore/status/1351969967172952070 …
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Equity dorks: it should trade at a discount because muh S&P Everyone else: sorry I just cleaned out all the dealer and MarketAxess inventory buying a positive real yielding infinitely lived TIPS.
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I can not emphasize enough how wrong this poll is. A classic example of framing leading to false choices. It’s absolutely NOT about the cash flows.
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Answer totally depends on how the coupon is calculated. This is the entire source of the disagreement between the fixed income dorks (you) and equity dorks (Jesse).https://twitter.com/macrocephalopod/status/1352023440962826247 …
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macrocephalopod @macrocephalopodReplying to @quantian1 @Jesse_LivermoreThink you’re answering based on the security paying principal x dividend yield of the index, whereas original question assumes that the security just pays the $ value of the dividends (ie if SPX falls, the coupon is reduced). Only way I can reconcile the difference of opinion.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
i.e. you can’t just take the stream of expected payouts and discount them with a treasury yield, because the size of the payouts is uncertain and you need to increase your discount rate to account for that. How much do you increase by? The equity risk premium!
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