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Kevin Lynagh

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I design and build things. Mostly software, sometimes furniture, and a few small buildings once.

Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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    Kevin Lynagh‏ @lynaghk 17 Aug 2013

    "Data all the things" vs. core.async loop/recur hiding state in a hundred lil' stackframes. Discuss.

    9:57 PM - 17 Aug 2013
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      2. I, Frame‏ @asolove 17 Aug 2013
        Replying to @lynaghk

        @lynaghk precisely. The line between those two, like between view and model in oo, is the core design problem.

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      3. Kevin Lynagh‏ @lynaghk 17 Aug 2013
        Replying to @asolove

        @asolove I love that Angular.js enforces all app state is kept in JS objects; the biggest downside is dirty-checking perf. And, er, JS.

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      4. I, Frame‏ @asolove 17 Aug 2013
        Replying to @lynaghk

        @lynaghk I've had a lot of trouble using core.async realistically without needing to break out of the sync nature of go blocks. Could be me.

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      5. Kevin Lynagh‏ @lynaghk 17 Aug 2013
        Replying to @asolove

        @asolove For UI stuff? You want to pair program on that topic sometime next week?

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      6. I, Frame‏ @asolove 17 Aug 2013
        Replying to @lynaghk

        @lynaghk yes absolutely. Have something in mind?

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      7. I, Frame‏ @asolove 17 Aug 2013
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        @lynaghk I have some drag and drop stuff for sketchpad that might be good.

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      1. Timothy Baldridge‏ @timbaldridge 19 Aug 2013
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        @lynaghk @stuartsierra core.async is a concurrency system, not a state management system. Go blocks should be mostly stateless.

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      2. James Henderson‏ @jarohen 19 Aug 2013
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        2/2 @lynaghk @stuartsierra @swannodette Maybe I've misunderstood his reasoning? core.async excellent for event passing though!

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      3. David Nolen‏ @swannodette 19 Aug 2013
        Replying to @jarohen

        @jarohen @lynaghk @stuartsierra yep, local loop state is not for observing

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      4. James Henderson‏ @jarohen 19 Aug 2013
        Replying to @swannodette

        @swannodette Thanks for clarifying - the pattern's just clicked :) I do like the 'trichotomic design' - fills a gap in my previous thinking!

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      1. James Henderson‏ @jarohen 19 Aug 2013
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        1/2 @lynaghk @stuartsierra Even after @swannodette's excellent blogs, would still use data for essential (tar-pit style) state...

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      1. soft register‏ @cemerick 17 Aug 2013
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        @lynaghk One of the reasons why I randomly rant about propagators and other "reified" cell approaches.

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